They dont even have enough money to make the dash lights match!

 

bump for definitive answer.

 

Some Chevy cars have this item already, I remember reading a court case about a guy who killed someone and lied saying that he wasn't speeding. I think they found he was going in excess of 30+ over the limit. So in this case it can be a help to the victim of the accident.

There is also a few rental agencies that have these in their cars now along with GPS so they can track where and how you drive and then charge you for abuse.

I like the idea, as long as it's federally regulated...not up to some dealer to decide if you're at fault for breaking the law.

 

I would Like To Express My Personal Opinion. I have Taken apart LOTS of cars, I meant Removed Complete Inteirior. I don't Think A company would waste Time effort and money to install a black box. There is a way to record data from your ECU including Throttle position, Engine RPM, vehicle Speed, and much more. But when you manufactur the car and warranty it, that means your saying it isn't breakable by driving. So If you put the Redline at 7000 rpm and the Motor can only take 6500 rpm you have to warranty all of the damages caused by reving the motor to 7000 rpm. Car abuse is not a valid way of voiding you warranty. Unless you crash or damage the car using tools, or modify it. I have Help About 5 of my customer get their Vehicles warrantyed. The dealer always claims vehicle abuse because you can't prove if or not the vehicle was abused. The great counter to the vehicle abuse claim is, you built it and you should have made the restrictions of the vehicles operation more restricting. Thats why Evos are electronicly limited at 140 mph, and the boost falls off, and you can't rev it over 6500 rpm at a stop. These are soo the Manufacture knows anything you do to the car shouldn't break it. Although if you beat the crap out of a car it will break. Enjoy your cars boys. Don't let the dealer push you around theyre just abunch of lying idiots.

 

Actually, most foreign cars don't have a black box. The black box pretty much only comes in American made cars like Ford, GM, Chevy etc. As stated above, the kid that lied was driving a corvette that had this black box in it.

 

If it has an airbag, it could have an Event Data Recorder, or "black box". You guys really need to read more than just the forums. People are getting convicted based on these things. Check out the dates on some of these articles.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...rder+black+box

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...er+big+brother

 

I guess that works, but I dissagree with the warranty voiding part. If you don't want someone to speed all vehicles should be limited at 70mph. See If cars don;t have limiters until 140mph and so forth and so on. That means the Manufactur should warranty the car even if you get the car gouing to 140 mph. Vehicle abuse should not be a reason to void the warranty.

 

The list doesnt have any Mitsu's on it. The only foreign cars I saw were Isuzu and Saab.

 

It's part of the SRS system. Nothing to do with the ECU, just the SRS system. I haven't found any difinitive evidence that Evo's, much less Mitsubishi's have these yet. Ford, GM, Toyota, Honda.... yes they have them, but no reference to definitive proof that Mitsu has them yet.

 

I tell you what...to those of you saying you're going to rip it out...if you injure me or anyone I know from being reckless and then think you can get away with it in court for lack of ERD proof, I will personally kick your face in.

Then I will let the accident investigators (who have done this job for decades without help from ERD's) pin the accident on you anyways.

I can't believe the lack of intelligent thought that goes on in this forum.

 

Why not? Why should Mitsu have to pay for your lack of self control?

 

Ok there tough guy, calm down. You NEVER EVER EVER speed in your Evo?

 

wooa, hold up, if he revs to 7500 and does 160 on a stock Evo then thats acceptable and is self control as far as mitsubishi should be concerned. adding an exhaust, boost controller and obeying all traffic laws is not self control.

 

bmws i belive record a lot of stuff like that

 

not all cars will have the boxes in 2007, but all cars sold with the box after 2007 must have printed in their owner's manual that the box is present. Typically they record throttle, speed, sometimes breaking and acceleration data for a few milliseconds to seconds before an incident that fires an airbag.

they've been used to convict and defend drivers of the car, and are not the same thing as the stats an ecu may keep on a car about it being "abused." The event data recorded contains all of the relevant information before an accident, whereas a simpler system can simply count rev limit hits and record max speed achieved. It's the difference between logging your boost through the rpm's in third gear, and just writing down the max psi achieved....very different datasets.