Do 2005 Evos have EDRs?
There is a lot of misinformation in this thread. Starting in the 2008 model year, the manufacturer will have to disclose if an EDR exists in the vehicle.
The EDR is always recording the last 5 seconds of the activity in the car; i.e., speed, turns, braking, etc. So when the newest second is being recorded the last one if falling off. The second an accident happens and the airbags pop, the EDR stops recording. Some EDRs are programmed to stop at an instance such as sudden, intense hard-braking (like 60 to 20 mph within 2 seconds as an example). That seems to be the standard that most of the companies are sticking to.
The only people that will be able to read these are the manufacturers as most of the interfaces will be propietary until a unified standard is done. The insurance companies can request (usually through the court) to have a dealer read the EDR data for an accident case. So a dealer will be hard pressed to void a warranty being that the EDR only has 5 seconds worth of data at any given point in time. Unless cars start coming with MBs worth of flash memory or even a small HD, that much information will not be stores in volume.
Eva01
The EDR is always recording the last 5 seconds of the activity in the car; i.e., speed, turns, braking, etc. So when the newest second is being recorded the last one if falling off. The second an accident happens and the airbags pop, the EDR stops recording. Some EDRs are programmed to stop at an instance such as sudden, intense hard-braking (like 60 to 20 mph within 2 seconds as an example). That seems to be the standard that most of the companies are sticking to.
The only people that will be able to read these are the manufacturers as most of the interfaces will be propietary until a unified standard is done. The insurance companies can request (usually through the court) to have a dealer read the EDR data for an accident case. So a dealer will be hard pressed to void a warranty being that the EDR only has 5 seconds worth of data at any given point in time. Unless cars start coming with MBs worth of flash memory or even a small HD, that much information will not be stores in volume.
Eva01
This is not far fetched I saw a piece on CNN or something talking about these devices. Not in this context but for other reasons. They were talking about being able to disable cars do to non payment sort of a electronic repo. Very interesting and very scary.
Its under the center arm rest, take the center console out and you'll see a "black box" between the seats with wires going to it. It has to be in the center of the car for the accelerometer to read. Most vehicles with air bags and OBD-II have them.
How to remove this thing??
???By software or hardware??
Originally Posted by jab_phoenix
wtf... so your telling me that because once while i was breaking in my enging my wife downshifted wrong and went up to 7k that my factory warranty is voided!? god im losing faith in new cars
A lot of big brother fears on this site...
Like I said in my previous post which is backed up by others, its an event recorder that records various sensor outputs right before and after an air bag is deployed. Why would you need to rid your car of it? If you get in an accident where you were going 110 mph, be prepared for the concequences. Its not the black boxes fault, it just reported the truth.
Like I said in my previous post which is backed up by others, its an event recorder that records various sensor outputs right before and after an air bag is deployed. Why would you need to rid your car of it? If you get in an accident where you were going 110 mph, be prepared for the concequences. Its not the black boxes fault, it just reported the truth.
Rental Car companys use something like this. If you use navigation and you get to point A to point B too fast they send you a ticket. My professor went to nevada and had this happen to him 2x.
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I'm not that concerned about a device that records info prior to and subsequent to air bag deployment. My original concern was whether there was some mechanism with GPS components that could conceivably allow my Evo to be located anywhere in real time.
Originally Posted by mathgeek
I'm not that concerned about a device that records info prior to and subsequent to air bag deployment. My original concern was whether there was some mechanism with GPS components that could conceivably allow my Evo to be located anywhere in real time.
here is a good article about it. maybe one of these companies that can retrieve the data can tell us if there is one in the evo. http://www.harristechnical.com/cdr.htm
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the "black box" does not record anything unless the car is in an accident, on saturns they have an sdm that is the "ecm" for the airbag systems, it records data in the event of a crash or if a sensor or something is malfunctioning. its just like a little ecm only it controls the airbag system.......... all you conspiracy theory people need to calm that *** down.