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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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It took you a couple months to create a jig for that? Who does your fabrication? I could make a jig for that in a matter of a couple hours.

Everyone needs to lighten up. The masses seem to be misinformed and under the impression that everything on your car has to be a part sold specifically for an evo. Little do you know that a lot of things like mini batteries are nothing more than rebadged motorcycle batteries most of the time anyway. Not to mention many of the other fuel pumps, shocks, etc. that are nothing more than repackaged and price-boosted parts that are for an "evo." Its a little rediculous these days, but thats how the business works I guess.
Thanks for the slam although if we would have taken the time to do it all at once it may have been done in a week or two. We also made sure it fit an 03 as well as it did an 06.

I would rather not argue you with your statement although I respect your opinion.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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Hey thats cool for you being able to do so. but I'm just a fan of it looking good and being functional. Sometimes you get what you pay for.



I even have an extra buschur battery if someone wants to buy it along with some uicp. Sorry to get off topic

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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe's_EVO8
Thanks for the slam although if we would have taken the time to do it all at once it may have been done in a week or two. We also made sure it fit an 03 as well as it did an 06.

I would rather not argue you with your statement although I respect your opinion.
Sorry if it came across as a slam. My point was that it seemed like you were justifying the price because of the time it took to make. If something truly took a couple months to develop, then yes I can see how the price is justified by that. I will have to say that your kit looks very good, it seems to be exceptionally well made. So I will have to give you a on that.

For some people the "pretty" parts, regardless of thier functionality, is the main concern. Ive pretty much always made my own parts, but then again Ive always been more into actual tracking and racing of my cars than how many points a judge gives them at some car show where the majority of the attendees arent even old enough to drive a car.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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majorpayne, you theories are very intesting. I'd be interested in seeing those cheaper, just repackaged shocks for the EVO, especially since they don't exist. The fuel pumps for the EVO are between $70-95, the only way to go cheaper is get an imitation Walbro made in China from Ebay. These batteries, well the one pictured here is, are not motorcycle batteries and it is common knowledge that the batteries we sell are Odyssey 680's, go buy one somewhere else. The battery try itself is not a repackaged piece either, it is specific to the EVO and will not fit any other vehicle.

Your opinions about parts being generic and relabeled with the prices marked up are incorrect.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
majorpayne, you theories are very intesting. I'd be interested in seeing those cheaper, just repackaged shocks for the EVO, especially since they don't exist. The fuel pumps for the EVO are between $70-95, the only way to go cheaper is get an imitation Walbro made in China from Ebay. These batteries, well the one pictured here is, are not motorcycle batteries and it is common knowledge that the batteries we sell are Odyssey 680's, go buy one somewhere else. The battery try itself is not a repackaged piece either, it is specific to the EVO and will not fit any other vehicle.

Your opinions about parts being generic and relabeled with the prices marked up are incorrect.
I talked to an individual a few years ago, while I was at PRI, that works for a large shock/strut manufacturer that gave me solid info that many of the shocks that were labeled for specific vehicle use were actually the exact same shock body and valving that were used on much more common cars and were much less expensive, the difference being the ends and how they mounted. Im not trying to convince you of anything here, so take it for what its worth.

I dont doubt that the batteries you sell are odysseys, i never disputed that fact. However you cant be naive enough to believe that just because something has a label from one company that it was actually r&d'd and produced by that company. Buying and reselling is a common-place business practice that isnt something that the automotive industry has avoided.

And I didnt say the battery tray is generic. You sound like youre talking down to me, as if Im one of the regular high schoolers on here with daddys money. Well think what youll like. And dont get me wrong, im not uninformed about the things youve done, which I respect. Youve done a lot of amazing builds. So im not trying to start an argument, it just sounds like youre denying somethings you really cant prove, unless Im unaware of the fact that you are part of the manufacturing and distribution business for these companies you are defending.

But anyway, no worries.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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A+ for effort TVA. Most of the replies are very disapointing. Let us know how it holds up and don't be afraid to say it didn't hold up after all, even though the weak people who need to make themselves feel good will say they "told you so". Then you can try something different until it works, and those of us who aren't *******s will be paying attention and appreciate it.

I for one, am not about to spend $225 on a smaller battery kit either. I can get a PC680 for $80 and that's worth it IMO but to spend an additional $145 just to mount the damn thing is stupid IMO. I don't care how nice and shiny the stupid tray and hardware you sell is or how many hours you spent on supposed BS R&D, engineering, research, or whatever you want to hype up about a battery mounting kit that you're selling for huge profit margins. Give me a break, those people are just out to make a buck and most of us are out to lose weight and save a buck. In the meantime, people like TVA will try to do what works for them. If nothing comes of this I'll try my own setup as well and post it, flamers or not.

Oh and as a sidenote, those of you whining about UICP compatibility and how the reduced weight has negligible benefits: your shiny UICP isn't all it's hyped up to be either, just like your overpriced billet and nuts and bolts to hold your overpriced battery in place.

Just to add something POSITIVE and HELPFUL to this thread- about the batteries some "buy first, think later" people seem to think are grown on a magic beanstalk, here's some hard facts about what batteries are what:
http://www.stealth316.com/2-dynabatt.htm
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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Thank you, I appreciate it. I'll definatly keep this updated and if it fails, oh well I'm out $45 bucks and I've already got it set up to take an Odyssey that I know will last.
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A+ for effort TVA. Most of the replies are very disapointing. Let us know how it holds up and don't be afraid to say it didn't hold up after all, even though the weak people who need to make themselves feel good will say they "told you so". Then you can try something different until it works, and those of us who aren't *******s will be paying attention and appreciate it.

I for one, am not about to spend $225 on a smaller battery kit either. I can get a PC680 for $80 and that's worth it IMO but to spend an additional $145 just to mount the damn thing is stupid IMO. I don't care how nice and shiny the stupid tray and hardware you sell is or how many hours you spent on supposed BS R&D, engineering, research, or whatever you want to hype up about a battery mounting kit that you're selling for huge profit margins. Give me a break, those people are just out to make a buck and most of us are out to lose weight and save a buck. In the meantime, people like TVA will try to do what works for them. If nothing comes of this I'll try my own setup as well and post it, flamers or not.

Oh and as a sidenote, those of you whining about UICP compatibility and how the reduced weight has negligible benefits: your shiny UICP isn't all it's hyped up to be either, just like your overpriced billet and nuts and bolts to hold your overpriced battery in place.

Just to add something POSITIVE and HELPFUL to this thread- about the batteries some "buy first, think later" people seem to think are grown on a magic beanstalk, here's some hard facts about what batteries are what:
http://www.stealth316.com/2-dynabatt.htm
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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TVA... someone gotta be the first to try it right... if it works out for you great... if not, well you spent $45 to find out.. and the rest of us will be greatful either way.... because if it works out good.. then im sure others will copy yo steez! lol and if it doesnt.. then you saved the rest of us from making the same mistake... thanks buddy..
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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Huge Profit margins? We wish that was the case. You can keep your pipe-dream though. Good luck. Step into our shoes and you would understand how difficult it is to sell these when this is the thinking that goes on. Luckily someone wants a solid Billet tray that bolts into their EVO and they won't have to adjust it or worry if it does not pass tech inspection.

No flaming here, because we all own EVO's here. Vendor or not.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe's_EVO8
Huge Profit margins? We wish that was the case. You can keep your pipe-dream though. Good luck. Step into our shoes and you would understand how difficult it is to sell these when this is the thinking that goes on. Luckily someone wants a solid Billet tray that bolts into their EVO and they won't have to adjust it or worry if it does not pass tech inspection.

No flaming here, because we all own EVO's here. Vendor or not.
Your part is very, very nice. Theres no denying that. I hope none of our responses have run away anyone who wants a nice high quality billet tray, as that was not the intention. There are a few different trains of thought when it comes to parts such as a battery tray...some just want something thats functional regardless of how it looks, some want something that is more visually appealing as well as functional, and there are some that only care about how it looks. Yours appears to function well and it looks great. And you also have to remember some people are just cheap, or tend to make most of the parts they use, so theres no getting to those people in any event.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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ok, so maybe the profit margins aren't huge, in which case i retract that statement. i apologise for sounding like i was attacking the vendors offering kits. they do indeed all seem pretty nice for an out-of-the-box solution for someone who doesn't want to figure it out on their own and doesn't care how much they spend on something like that.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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I feel the same way...paying $200+ for a mini battery kit is just money poorly spent. These mini batteries can be purchased for cheap, and in my opinion $100-$150 spent on a sheet metal tray is just money flushed down the toilet. To each their own, anyone can fab up a decent tray given enough time and tools. Spending this kind of money on cosmetic items under the hood that no one can even see, seems kind of "ricer-ish" if you ask me (no performance increase). I come from a DSM backround as well, so maybe this is just my ghetto DSM roots speaking out

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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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I guess it is a good thing ours is not a sheet-metal tray!

I once had a DSM too so I remember those ghetto fabulous days.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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Anyone interested in fabricating their own custom tray should look here:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=181767

(Looks very nice imho)
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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not a bad idea at all. for the effort.
i just dont know about the motorcycle battery.
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