Chalk it up on the board full of these. Another statistic I guess.
It sounds to me like some people should have a permanent chauffer because they are too accident prone. This is a recipe for disaster aimed directly at an unsuspecting victim. I've been driving for over 20 years and I have only been involved in one accident and that one wasn't even my fault. It baffles me that some people could be involved in so many accidents over a short period of time. Actually it doesn't it baffle me, I know what it is. 
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Did you read the tirerack description?
It categorizes the tire as a SUMMER tire. Almost freezing is not SUMMER weather regardless of wet or dry. I'm sure the water didn't help but it was more the temperature I was talking about.
From tirerack for KDW2 and KDW:
Like all summer tires, g-Force T/A KDW-2 tires are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice.
It categorizes the tire as a SUMMER tire. Almost freezing is not SUMMER weather regardless of wet or dry. I'm sure the water didn't help but it was more the temperature I was talking about.
From tirerack for KDW2 and KDW:
Like all summer tires, g-Force T/A KDW-2 tires are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice.
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It sounds to me like some people should have a permanent chauffer because they are too accident prone. This is a recipe for disaster aimed directly at an unsuspecting victim. I've been driving for over 20 years and I have only been involved in one accident and that one wasn't even my fault. It baffles me that some people could be involved in so many accidents over a short period of time. Actually it doesn't it baffle me, I know what it is.
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30 is 2 degrees below freezing and 33 is only 1 degree above. I'd say 36-38 degrees is near freezing but, what ever.
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You guys might be on to something. After I read your post, this is the first thing I thought of. I know it was quite cool this weekend on the east coast. You get down below 40 degrees on any summer tire, and you are compromising the traction of the tire. I didn't do my research on that BFG model, but if it is a summer tire, that might have contributed.
On another note, I do think it is a good idea to start with a "stock" car and build your way up. You can get a feel for the car and get used to what it can do. Once you start adding power it behaves very differently. And it's up to you to know what has changed and the new "limits" of your car.
I found out I can get into trouble very quick when one day I walked into the shop with 300whp, and later that day walked out with 380whp. It took some time to get adjusted and probably pushed it farther than I wanted before I made a mental note - "I better not accelerate like that again".
I now know that unless I am on an open straight I cannot spool 'er up very much. And being on the stock turbo, it can spool quickly and in a rush. So it's all about being careful, and knowing your limits.
Good luck with your next project.
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You guys might be on to something. After I read your post, this is the first thing I thought of. I know it was quite cool this weekend on the east coast. You get down below 40 degrees on any summer tire, and you are compromising the traction of the tire. I didn't do my research on that BFG model, but if it is a summer tire, that might have contributed.
On another note, I do think it is a good idea to start with a "stock" car and build your way up. You can get a feel for the car and get used to what it can do. Once you start adding power it behaves very differently. And it's up to you to know what has changed and the new "limits" of your car.
I found out I can get into trouble very quick when one day I walked into the shop with 300whp, and later that day walked out with 380whp. It took some time to get adjusted and probably pushed it farther than I wanted before I made a mental note - "I better not accelerate like that again".
I now know that unless I am on an open straight I cannot spool 'er up very much. And being on the stock turbo, it can spool quickly and in a rush. So it's all about being careful, and knowing your limits.
Good luck with your next project.
On another note, I do think it is a good idea to start with a "stock" car and build your way up. You can get a feel for the car and get used to what it can do. Once you start adding power it behaves very differently. And it's up to you to know what has changed and the new "limits" of your car.
I found out I can get into trouble very quick when one day I walked into the shop with 300whp, and later that day walked out with 380whp. It took some time to get adjusted and probably pushed it farther than I wanted before I made a mental note - "I better not accelerate like that again".
I now know that unless I am on an open straight I cannot spool 'er up very much. And being on the stock turbo, it can spool quickly and in a rush. So it's all about being careful, and knowing your limits.
Good luck with your next project.
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It sounds to me like some people should have a permanent chauffer because they are too accident prone. This is a recipe for disaster aimed directly at an unsuspecting victim. I've been driving for over 20 years and I have only been involved in one accident and that one wasn't even my fault. It baffles me that some people could be involved in so many accidents over a short period of time. Actually it doesn't it baffle me, I know what it is.
LMAO
UUUUUU HUH HUH If u have only been in one accident in ur whole life then u must live in like podunk and yer avatar says QUOTE "Drives like a bat out of hell" well when ur driving a 1982 ford escort thats moves at the pace of a snail I gues it would be hard to get in a wreck maybe u "drive like a bunny out of hell" LMAO
LMAO
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O EXCUSE ME! Ms. School teacher Nancy for the slang computer grammar and my GTS drives great thank u for asking and by the way an EVO is still a lancer. And I dont need A german road to drive fast we have are own roads here in the good old US of A. I didnt see a car listed in ur Avatar so I just assumed u were ashamed of it(1982 Ford escort still LMAO ). This board was for helping out the guy that wreck his EVO not to trash him and say "I only wrecked once and it wasnt even my fault" and "If u wreck ur a bad driver" that is why they call it an ACCIDENT. 
). This board was for helping out the guy that wreck his EVO not to trash him and say "I only wrecked once and it wasnt even my fault" and "If u wreck ur a bad driver" that is why they call it an ACCIDENT.
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Sorry to hear about your accident. Lots of good replies from people here. However, one thing remains true; there is no substitute for experience and education. I've done a lot of stupid things when I was a new driver, and fortunately have learned from my mistakes since then. I've been driving now for about 15 years, and I'm still learning!
Chalk it up to experience. I commend you for having a good attitude about this though, and realizing your faults and weaknesses. It's through that will you become a stronger, more mature driver.
Chalk it up to experience. I commend you for having a good attitude about this though, and realizing your faults and weaknesses. It's through that will you become a stronger, more mature driver.
Sorry to hear, and glad you and your girl walked away from it. Lesson learned here is that you should NEVER push your car (any car) on a road you aren't familiar with. Take it slow the first time and then open it up after you know the road. Race car drivers don't drive at full tilt when they first get to the race track...they go slow, feel out the track and then they go ***** to the wall. Same goes for the street. Again, glad ya'll are OK. Keep it straight and between the yellow.
