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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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tough break dude.....
15k down the drain....
hopefully you paid with your CC
can dispute that **** and get some money back...
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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Any tuners parts and service have the potential to either work well, or to have a few problems.
None are totally infallible.Some people love RMR and obviously a few don't.

The main thing to remember is that the true test of integrity(for anyone)is how one responds when the chips are down and $heit is hitting the fan. Its always easy to be a good guy when things are going well.

On the other side of the coin having too much disposable income to throw at mods, and an insatiable desire to have the best and fastest first, can definitely put you in the bleeding-edge R&D mode. The results are often fraught with trial and error issues where theory and reality don't always align. Sounds like your car is way out of focus at this point for the money spent.

Anyway, good luck on getting squared-away, and hopefully you can return your car to a stable configuration soon!

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Old Jul 9, 2003 | 09:31 PM
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Well said.
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 10:00 PM
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I would be pissed, but I really think it has a lot to do with the ECU flash personally. What did I know not much.
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by lil'evil_evo
I would be pissed, but I really think it has a lot to do with the ECU flash personally. What did I know not much.
I think the ECU flash is the least of the worries there. The main issue I think was with the turbo swap and all of the excess plumbing (ie external wastegate, added BOV, etc etc). Who knows?
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by Chris in HB


I think the ECU flash is the least of the worries there. The main issue I think was with the turbo swap and all of the excess plumbing (ie external wastegate, added BOV, etc etc). Who knows?
Yeah who knows. I have to ask Chris in HB hows your RMR exhaust? Do you notice much in power?
Old Jul 9, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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Yep - my car runs like a champ. In fact, I am going to get it dyno'ed on the 25th now that I am done adding power mods. My mods are (all RMR, except for the HKS turbo timer): downpipe, exhaust, intake, intercooler hardpipe, crossbrace and ECU flash.

Baseline pull was 220, intake/downpipe was 250, intake/downpipe/ECU was 279. I am hoping for around 300whp with the exhaust and hardpipe kit.

Like I said before, everything fits perfectly, runs great and sounds awesome. My car holds a perfect 900 rpm idle. I took the steps slowly, doing a mod or two at a time and I gave the shop as much time as they needed. As for the ECU, they borrowed my car for the development process, so I took more risk than most would. I loaned them my car for a week (and they loaned me their sweet Advan promo car) and the ECU came out perfectly. From what I understand, RMR will tune it for whatever mods you have (tuning is done on the dyno). They knew I was just doing bolt-ons, so that is what my ECU is set to. As for Shawn's ECU, I don't know what map they used. Sorry.
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 12:00 AM
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[B] Ideally, you'd want to add something, test it, move on to the next mod. Unfortunately, Mr. Glass just wanted his new toy NOW like some little kid. You need to shoulder some of the blame.
First of all Chris, you dont know me at all. I'm not some little kid, I'm 32 years old and work hard for every damn penny I put into that car. Second, you need to check YOUR facts and get both sides of the story before YOU go off. When I approached them about doing everything, I told them the time frame in which they could have the car and if that was enough time. Their response was "no problem Shawn, 2 weeks is plenty of time to get everything done". So with that said, it's on them. I didn't rush them, they knew how long they could have the car before tackling the job.

If you paid attention, I also said this is MY own opinion, and that I'm sure other people have had good luck with them. So hats off to you for having all your crap work. At least you can drive around the corner if something goes wrong, not that they'll do anything to help you.

Shawn
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 12:37 AM
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Sounds to me like your spending too much money on a $30,000 car anyway. If your putting in almost as much as you payed why not just buy a car in that range with that performance? I mean its not like you can say you enjoy building up a car over time. Your paying to have it all done and done quickly. I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but learn to spend your money a little more wisely than 60 grand on a mitsu import (don't get me wrong, i love the evo, but 60 grand will do a lot better for you than an evo!).
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 12:43 AM
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Sounds to me like your spending too much money on a $30,000 car anyway. If your putting in almost as much as you payed why not just buy a car in that range with that performance? I mean its not like you can say you enjoy building up a car over time. Your paying to have it all done and done quickly. I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but learn to spend your money a little more wisely than 60 grand on a mitsu import (don't get me wrong, i love the evo, but 60 grand will do a lot better for you than an evo!).
When did I ever say I spent 30k on the car? To be honest I think I spent my money a little more wisely than you and bought a real Lancer to begin with, no? Plus what do you care what I do with my money? Bottom line, I paid someone to do the work on my car, they made a bunch of promises that didn't happen, and I'm stuck with a car that doesn't run. What else is there to discuss?

Shawn
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 12:47 AM
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ok lets cut the flames and get back to the real issues here
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 12:56 AM
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Originally posted by N10S

On the other side of the coin having too much disposable income to throw at mods, and an insatiable desire to have the best and fastest first, can definitely put you in the bleeding-edge R&D mode. The results are often fraught with trial and error issues where theory and reality don't always align. Sounds like your car is way out of focus at this point for the money spent.

Anyway, good luck on getting squared-away, and hopefully you can return your car to a stable configuration soon!

N10S
Thanks for the nice words. People keep saying that I should expect these type of problems, etc. Fact of the matter is this. They told me that everything done on my car they have done before, and worked fine w/o any issues. The only thing my car acted as a guinea pig for was the ecu reflash, which if you read my post know doesn't work for squat. So I dont expect any issues when I'm reassured over and over again that this setup is tried and true, etc. I took their advice completely regarding every part put on the car. Except maybe the intercooler, they didn't really like putting on another shops' products, although there has been 0 issues with any of Pruven's parts on the car.

Shawn
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 01:14 AM
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Chris/Shawn, I've seen both of your cars in person. Chris-Your car is sick, and very subtle. You share the EXACT same philosophy asI when it comes to mods...baby steps. I don't have any engine mods yet as I have started from the "ground" up with suspension/rigidity mods (Mine is intended to be a track car not a dragstrip car, and handling is my fetish). Chris, you've added your mods little by little taking time between each step to evaluate them individually which is what I have done with mine. Every person has their own philosophy, which is what makes this scene great, but a more methodical approach is the one for me. Your plan seems to have been well thought out. Shawn-I saw your car at the Torrance EVO meet, and I **** my pants when I heard/saw it pull into the lot!! I was drooling over it for quite some time (I think I actually drooled on it...sorry). I noticed that you had A LOT of mods done in a fairly short amount of time. Apart from the RMR mods you had quite a few other parts installed as well (i.e. intercooler, radiator, rotors etc...). Is it possible that the process was complicated a bit by this. This is NOT criticism, I'm just wondering if you had thought about what N10S wrote when he said that when you put things together at a rapid rate you push dangerously close to "R&D" status? I like to feel out each step as it not only gives me a better idea of gains at each level, but also allows for more insight into the tuning process. I cannot speak a word to the quality of RMR's work nor their customer service, all I have is word of mouth testimonials from a few socalevo guys who have had no problems with RMR. However, I am NOT defending RMR...I simply have no experience with them. I, like many others here, place the uttmost importance on customer service, regardless of the amount of money spent, but in your case the $$ is significant and I think it wise to give a little "special" treatment to you. I would consider spending a lot more money with a company that I KNEW was going to back me in a pinch. I would like to see a quick, satisfactory resolution to you predicament, and I am truly sorry that this happened to you, from one EVO owner to another. I was truly saddened by this news, as I was waiting to see what that baaad machine could do. Best of luck to you!
-Rich
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 01:31 AM
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You said you spent 15k plus!!!

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When did I ever say I spent 30k on the car?

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after spending 15k

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the 10k stereo system in the car

You said you spent 15k in mods and 10k on the stereo, thats 25k nearly 30k like i said. sorry if i caused confusion. Good luck with your car!
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 03:00 AM
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I've always said, if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself.



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