Nothing wrong with the stock one - its just a mass produced unit and you can get 10 extra free hp without any adverse result with the works apiture - my favorite evo mod yet

 

I was just checking out the site Al, and I think I'd have to do the core charge since I need my car everyday. Do you think it would get noticed by the dealership? I don't think so, since it's just modified internally, right?? This stuff is new to me. When I had my Mustang back when, things were simple... LOL.

 

I dont think the dealer whoul notice in 100 years - however there is a WORKS stamped onto the butterfly - interesting idea - IF works could make these without the WORKS stamped into the butterfly as a "stealth" option that way it would be very hard to tell unless you knew what you were looking for

 

Al - btw, whose intercooler are you running now? I've heard it's an easy step to add those last bits of hp I want.

 

- the pruven performance one - good for 25 ft lbs and hp

 

Thanks - I might need that...

 

FWIW, 210 wheel hp on a Dyno Dynamics Dyno (which I believe you are referring to) is equivalent to ~240 wheel hp on an AWD Dynojet. So I don't think any crack smoking was involved

Cheers,
shiv

 

Sorry Shiv, but 240 whp is typically 10-15 whp over what a stock evo would put down. So your claim is that a Works reflash, throttle body upgrade, and axle back exhaust only made 10 whp on your dyno......................yet those of us that are somewhat informed are aware that this mod combo typically makes 25-30 whp improvement over stock on every other dyno in the world. So why don't u tell the real story then?

 

For reference, when we did the dyno day at altered atmosphere a few months back, the average HP for a stock Evo was around 223. Mind you this was on a dry day of about 60 degrees or so. and ALL the stock Evos had the fule curve like the stock one shown here, all dropping off below 10 before the redline. My butt dyno has shown a loss of hp in the last month or so that its been hot as hell and humid as... as... I cant think of a good comparison, but extremely humid. I wouldnt doubt a stock evo dynoing at 210 nowdays. Everything seems kosher.

David, I'm extremely interested in your reflash. any ETA on the boost feature on it and any change in price?

 

My base pull in Cali (Dynojet at XS Engineering) was 221. The last pull was 309. Even with all of the argument over whose dyno does what, that's a good improvement.

David, I PM'ed you about the WORKS flash. If you get the chance to read it (I know it's long), I would appreciate your input. Thanks in advance.

 

What's up Chris!? So ... are u thinking of possibly trying the Works flash to compare it to RMR?

 

Sort of - I want to see if I can squeeze a few more HP and maybe smooth out the HP and Torque curves a little since I am running 93 octane now (moved from CA to VA). Also, I've heard a lot of good things about the WORKS flash, and as far as I know, I'm the only person in the US (besides the RMR shop car) that is using the RMR flash. No complaints from the RMR flash, but just checking things out.

 

Oh gotch-ya ....

Yea you should be able to squeeze a few more ponies from either a 93 octane Works flash, or maybe fining tuning your existing set-up with a E-Manage or S-AFC. I'm planning on getting the Works flash as well, and I'm looking to do some fine-tuning with my S-AFC ... allot more humidity over here in FL compared to Cali, so a few air/fuel adjustments on a awd dyno with wideband o2 may be helpful.

 

I used my "junk yard special". It definitely flows better than the stock muffler. With my current mods, I don't think my 1.5 ft. of pipe is hindering exhaust flow in any way, it is simply directing it out the bumper cutout. You have to remember the rest of the exhaust is less than 2.5 inch diameter crush bent pipe. My pipe is 3" crush bend. Even if the Works exhale gets a few more ponies than the one I made, I can't justify the extra cost per hp at this point. Don't get me wrong, this is a temporary solution, and I plan on upgrading my exhaust as budget permits. If you have the loot by all means buy the exhale, as it looks like a beautifully engineered and manufactured piece. I also look forward to seeing other exhaust products from WORKS.

I apologize AL, if I gave the impression that my junk pipe was the same as the exhale, which has to be the ultimate muffler delete pipe available. I tried to make that clear, while also pointing out to the penny pinchers that I only paid $36 for something I enjoy my evo more because of. Don't hate me if I have to get creative because I don't have your budget. BTW great job on your latest dyno session. I am glad there is someone like you out there pushing the boundaries of what our cars are capable of.

 

Thank You