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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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i drive my car on street but i autocross sooo race carissshhh....
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Ivan@AMS
I am curious as to where others draw the line between a "street car" and a "race car".

When do you feel a street car is no longer a street car?
I gotta jump in... a street car:

- Must be plated
- Must have stock cat
- Can't run any kind of cat-fouling leaded gas
- Can't have a louder-than-stock exhaust
- Take all the weight out you want, but you can't mess up the safety features - ABS in, crash beams in
- Any tires you want, as long as you can drive them legally on the street where you live
- No one can ever call their car a street car if they can't drive it in the rain, so no low-down air filters, funny holes in the hood or the like

How to define a race car: The IHRA has a rule that says that you need a 5 or 6-point roll bar and a 5-point safety harness for 11.49 or below (11.99 under NHRA rules). I have a rule:

- Roll bar required = race car

So there you go: 11.49 or below is a race car, and at that point the sky's the limit as to what you can do.

BTW, I've read a bunch of threads about people running 10's and 9's on 93 octane and street-like tires. At 10.0 and below, NHRA requires (as I read it) a full cage, a net, a battery cut-off switch, and chassis certification. Lots of these cars are running at Norwalk as Buschur Racing customers - why is the track allowing these passes to take place?

Tom
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tlcoll1
I gotta jump in... a street car:

- Must be plated
- Must have stock cat
- Can't run any kind of cat-fouling leaded gas
- Can't have a louder-than-stock exhaust
- Take all the weight out you want, but you can't mess up the safety features - ABS in, crash beams in
- Any tires you want, as long as you can drive them legally on the street where you live
- No one can ever call their car a street car if they can't drive it in the rain, so no low-down air filters, funny holes in the hood or the like

How to define a race car: The IHRA has a rule that says that you need a 5 or 6-point roll bar and a 5-point safety harness for 11.49 or below (11.99 under NHRA rules). I have a rule:

- Roll bar required = race car

So there you go: 11.49 or below is a race car, and at that point the sky's the limit as to what you can do.

BTW, I've read a bunch of threads about people running 10's and 9's on 93 octane and street-like tires. At 10.0 and below, NHRA requires (as I read it) a full cage, a net, a battery cut-off switch, and chassis certification. Lots of these cars are running at Norwalk as Buschur Racing customers - why is the track allowing these passes to take place?

Tom
May i ask why you say " It must have a cat "... here in FL there is no emissions law so why add to a car what the state doesnt require??
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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if you run pump gas, its a street car
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by speedypollard
if you run pump gas, its a street car

hmmm.. so a lexan, no headlights, 10pt cage, 1 seat, 4 slicks,1gal fuel cell, EVO that can make a pass on pump is a street car.. has to be more to it than the fuel, right???
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian_H
This is going to be different to every person depending on just how sadistic they are.
aye!

"street cars" should have a full cooling system (i.e. radiator attached). registered of course, and not trailer-ed, the 3 aforementioned should pretty much justify it being a street car.
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
May i ask why you say " It must have a cat "... here in FL there is no emissions law so why add to a car what the state doesnt require??
Well, the car came with a cat, there's other states you might want to drive to someday that do have that requirement, and it's generally bad for the environment to take it off. Agree?

Tom
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tlcoll1
I gotta jump in... a street car:

- Must be plated
- Must have stock cat
- Can't run any kind of cat-fouling leaded gas
- Can't have a louder-than-stock exhaust
- Take all the weight out you want, but you can't mess up the safety features - ABS in, crash beams in
- Any tires you want, as long as you can drive them legally on the street where you live
- No one can ever call their car a street car if they can't drive it in the rain, so no low-down air filters, funny holes in the hood or the like

How to define a race car: The IHRA has a rule that says that you need a 5 or 6-point roll bar and a 5-point safety harness for 11.49 or below (11.99 under NHRA rules). I have a rule:

- Roll bar required = race car

So there you go: 11.49 or below is a race car, and at that point the sky's the limit as to what you can do.

BTW, I've read a bunch of threads about people running 10's and 9's on 93 octane and street-like tires. At 10.0 and below, NHRA requires (as I read it) a full cage, a net, a battery cut-off switch, and chassis certification. Lots of these cars are running at Norwalk as Buschur Racing customers - why is the track allowing these passes to take place?

Tom
By that qualification alone about half the cars on the road are now race cars.
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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A race car does not have doors. Racing cars have doors
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tlcoll1
Well, the car came with a cat, there's other states you might want to drive to someday that do have that requirement, and it's generally bad for the environment to take it off. Agree?

Tom

You can drive thru other states as long as your registered in FL.. I run E-85 in my EVO so i am looking out for the environment even w/o the cat..
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