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Old Sep 25, 2003 | 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by SuperchargedGTZ
Does everyone remember when they reeled us in they gave us the HUGE paper book about the EVO. WELL right in the middle they had a bunch of pictures with MODIFIED EVOs

WHAT THE HELL DO THEY EXPECT?
They (the district service rep) told me when I had my Evo that, "..just because we advertise the car to be raced does not mean you can. If you do, it will break, and we will void your warranty. Our advertising is separate from our sales and service," and so it was......and they ARE watching. Expect them to screw you. I traded in my Evo because I got tired of dealing with them. Never again. Thanks Mitsubishi for making my buying decisions easier by excluding you.
Old Sep 25, 2003 | 09:43 PM
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The funny thing. Not only does Mitsu watch the races but I'm pretty sure consumers do as well. I've been thinking of putting Subaru badges on my car. Mitsu's getting a lot of free advertising from me and I think it needs to stop.
Old Oct 10, 2003 | 03:14 PM
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Hey guys,
I just read the last couple of pages in regards to Dealership [ie: licensee] Warranty claims.

I have a buddy who is a ASE cerified tech at Mitsubishi. Over the past 15 years that he has been a tech there he has said WITHOUT A DOUBT that a great percentage of cars
1G/2g/VR4/3000GT/EVO8 that come through his shop for warranty work are in fact cars that have been driven hard.
Warranty denial claims DO vary from Dealership to Dealership.

On my old 2G FWD Turbo, The first motor crankwalked itself.
When the dealership performed the post mortem, they advised me that even though the car had an aftermarket exhaust on it, the EXHAUST did not lend to the crank bearing failure.

Also, in regards to failing fifth gears, YES a qualified mechanic can tell if the fifth gear failed from a manufacturer defect OR if it was driver error.


Even though I work at a aftermarket retail shop, YOU the owner have to understand what you are getting yourself into when purchasing a high performance car, and associated aftermarket parts
I can't count the number of guys/gals that have purchased parts and have called to complain of parts breakage......
When asked what led up to the breakage. A LARGE percentage of those were because of driver error!

If you race it, AND BREAK it, you ALONE are responsible for what happens. Regardless if a local Dealership is using questionable practices to find out if you race the car, it's still up to YOU to protect YOURSELF from being CAUGHT racing.
Gentlemen, racing is racing. It is the Manufacturers responsibility to guarantee workmanship ONLY if a part fails under normal wear and tear.
However I wish all of you the very best of luck when taking your cars into have servicing performed on them. If your claim flys under the radar of big brother, then god bless you.


HOWEVER. Simply being PARKED at a drag strip is NOT an admission to guilt.

Racing your car IS.


Think before you leap fellas.

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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 03:18 PM
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When did you get a GVR4, Geoff? It's Josh (the one who was in Puerto Rico for the longest time).

I want a GVR4 badly as a second car......

Josh
Old Oct 10, 2003 | 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by 90GSX-03EVO
When did you get a GVR4, Geoff?
Josh
Picked it up couple of weeks ago......


You are looking for one huh?


http://autotrader.com/findacar/image...&ac_afflt=none


also, log onto www.galantvr4.org There are GVR4's for sale on there too
Old Oct 10, 2003 | 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by Geoff@MachV


Picked it up couple of weeks ago......


You are looking for one huh?


http://autotrader.com/findacar/image...&ac_afflt=none


also, log onto www.galantvr4.org There are GVR4's for sale on there too
Yeah, I want to do an Evo 2 clone out of a GVR4.

Josh
Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:29 PM
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Originally posted by 90GSX-03EVO


Yeah, I want to do an Evo 2 clone out of a GVR4.

Josh
I've been thinking about doing that too. Mitsu Expo LRV's with 2.4liter engines and a 5 speed get the Evo3 AWD running gear. Take the AWD from the Expo LRV and a 4g63turbo from a second gen eclipse and put it all into a mirage and you have a left hand drive evo3. Also, the VR4 has an open rear diff and is american assembled(I think) while the LRV gets a rear LSD and is 100% Japanese.

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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by StriktlyBidness
Just to post an update--

I went by the dealer today to drop off my new clutch and verified without a shadow of a doubt that the DEALER had absolutely NOTHING to do with this. He also informed me today that isn't even pictures--it is VIDEO. He hasn't even seen the video so I am not sure if I ever will either. He also had a copy of this thread thath the district rep sent him. So the voice is being HEARD!
Dude...if some dealer fed me a line about having photos or video, I'd say, "Okay, tough guy, let's see it!" If they can't produce the photos or video and they still deny my warranty claim, then it's lawsuit time...BIG TIME!!!
Old Oct 14, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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Yep, I'm yet another one of those DSM guys, but this thread caught my interest in particular.

Lets be honest, Mitsu has LONG been known for giving their customers the shaft. Its been talked about for years. It took a massive group effort to get the transfer case recall on the DSMs through the NHTSA, and that was a MAJOR safety issue.

Mitsu still denies that the crankwalk issue on the 7-bolt block was ever a manufacturing defect, regardless of the data shown, and class action suits have been met with nothing.

I love DSMs, despite the issues they have, and the Evo is an incredible car that I will likely own before too long, but don't kid yourself about support. Read the history of the vendor. We called Mitsu SATAN for a reason, and it wasn't an acronym.

Buy an Evo if you want a solid platform to go fast and have fun in, but don't expect warranty replacement on things like clutches. The dealer can almost always prove misuse if they want to.

-Dylan
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by Llarian


We called Mitsu SATAN for a reason, and it wasn't an acronym.


Hehehe...

Good old SATAN.

I remember the days ofthe Talon Digest. Wait, it still exists. I just haven't updated my new email address to get the subscription again.

Doh!
Old Oct 14, 2003 | 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by 90GSX-03EVO
I remember the days ofthe Talon Digest. Wait, it still exists. I just haven't updated my new email address to get the subscription again.
Don't bother. Its dead.

Todd is persona non-grata, ClubDSM is splintered into a bunch of feuding factions, and the message board is now king over the old talon-digest.

Nothing is forever I guess, although I miss the sense of community.

-Dylan
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by Llarian


Don't bother. Its dead.

Todd is persona non-grata, ClubDSM is splintered into a bunch of feuding factions, and the message board is now king over the old talon-digest.

Nothing is forever I guess, although I miss the sense of community.

-Dylan
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Yeah, I re-subscribed to it and got....

A confirmation of re-subscription.....

Damn it.

And I haven't been on DSMTalk in forever. Is that still around?

I just need to do some searching around or maybe jump on MIrc and see who I can find.
Old Oct 14, 2003 | 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by Meeyatch1


Our advertising is separate from our sales and service,

Have you seen the training video they show to salesmen for this car?

They are racing the car in that friggin video! Now, that is sales and service, right? Why would they advertise to their own salesmen?
Old Oct 14, 2003 | 11:27 PM
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It's all just a bunch of tree-hugging, hippie crap.
Old Oct 28, 2003 | 07:53 PM
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damn that suxs, just take the plates off



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