Mits is WATCHING US at the track!
Originally posted by apursell
And spite them, i'm handing out evo service manuals to Everyone i see with an evo for free because of their immature actions...
And spite them, i'm handing out evo service manuals to Everyone i see with an evo for free because of their immature actions...
Originally posted by jsammari
I'm glad I waited to buy an EVO, forget it now.
can kiss my
I hear an AWD G35 is due out this December.
I'm glad I waited to buy an EVO, forget it now.
can kiss my
I hear an AWD G35 is due out this December.
. Like I said earlier, they will NEVER get my business again.
Originally posted by mitsubishi332
Don't you realize what you're handing out is what they call a TEMPORARY manual. I have not heard news about the FINAL manual yet. There may be incorrect information in the Temp, such as torque specs, etc...If something happens to them or their car, they might come after you since you gave them the manual...never know, just watch your back...
Don't you realize what you're handing out is what they call a TEMPORARY manual. I have not heard news about the FINAL manual yet. There may be incorrect information in the Temp, such as torque specs, etc...If something happens to them or their car, they might come after you since you gave them the manual...never know, just watch your back...
I have heard about this through some friends who own a performance shop that Audi does this kind of thing as well. They will find out about big car meets or track days as secretly take down your VIN and ask you about your mods. You go in for a fix, they have it all in black and white. It seems like the big 3 do a better job of taking care of after the sale issues than other manufacturers.
So what if there watching us at the track? We all know the risk of driving on a track/auto-x. Fixing a warrantied part under normal driving condition is a legitimate claim. Asking Mitsu to fix a part for free, knowing you broke the part, is something different.
Re: Re: Re: Mits is WATCHING US at the track!
Originally posted by StriktlyBidness
Yea ... good point. It might help those who haven't been busted yet though. I wanted to order personal tags anyway so I am going to go ahead and do it..but you are right...probably wouldn't help me at this point.
Yea ... good point. It might help those who haven't been busted yet though. I wanted to order personal tags anyway so I am going to go ahead and do it..but you are right...probably wouldn't help me at this point.
Originally posted by apursell
ok thats fine, i downloaded from they site you pay for it, www.mitsubi****echinfo.com
ok thats fine, i downloaded from they site you pay for it, www.mitsubi****echinfo.com
Personally, I have not tracked my car. But I have to say that the first place I would go to this is the Better Business Bureau. The onus, no matter what the reason for denial of warranty is, by law, on the warranter.
Post hoc ergo proptor hoc.
Because I was at the track doesn't mean I abused my car. There is no necessary implication that you abused your car. Many people go to the track and baby their car. The car may have been launched on the street much harder than it ever had at the track. Mitsubishi better be ready to deal with the windfall of their actions. The groundswell at this point does not bode well.
Post hoc ergo proptor hoc.
Because I was at the track doesn't mean I abused my car. There is no necessary implication that you abused your car. Many people go to the track and baby their car. The car may have been launched on the street much harder than it ever had at the track. Mitsubishi better be ready to deal with the windfall of their actions. The groundswell at this point does not bode well.
I don't own an Evo but really want/ed to (slash intentional). But there are a couple lessons to be learned from previous cars and enthusiast webboards before you.
1)It's in the manual, race your car and your warranty is void. It doesn't matter if Mitsu markets the car one way or not. Look at Subarus ads with the handbrake pulled flying around a corner. Subaru even gave free 1 year memberships to the SCCA with a WRX purchase. Guess what? Use your WRX at a SCCA sanctioned event, warranty voided.
2)Mitsu/Subaru/Everyone checks the boards. Don't EVER say you took your car to a track. Don't EVER post a time. They can subpoena your username and every post you've made.
Does Mitsu suck for spying, absolutely. But they didn't make you race.
1)It's in the manual, race your car and your warranty is void. It doesn't matter if Mitsu markets the car one way or not. Look at Subarus ads with the handbrake pulled flying around a corner. Subaru even gave free 1 year memberships to the SCCA with a WRX purchase. Guess what? Use your WRX at a SCCA sanctioned event, warranty voided.
2)Mitsu/Subaru/Everyone checks the boards. Don't EVER say you took your car to a track. Don't EVER post a time. They can subpoena your username and every post you've made.
Does Mitsu suck for spying, absolutely. But they didn't make you race.
Originally posted by kdogg
Fixing a warrantied part under normal driving condition is a legitimate claim. Asking Mitsu to fix a part for free, knowing you broke the part, is something different.
Fixing a warrantied part under normal driving condition is a legitimate claim. Asking Mitsu to fix a part for free, knowing you broke the part, is something different.
does not want to stand behind their product when their customers use EVO as per their marketing campaign - then there is a strong case for misleading advertising. IMHO, of course...
This is really sad. I'd almost want to say this is a dealership practice and not a Mitsu corportate thing because I know of a few people who don't have these kinds of problems with their dealership. But the amount that do is alarming.
But I guess this doesn't surprise me. From Mitsu's denial of crankwalk on the 2nd gen DSMs, to other problems they've had with various models.
I can seriously say that they have lost a repeat customer in me as far as buying a new vehicle from them
Why is it that when the EVO came out, dealerships were marking up the prices way over list, and Mitsu never stepped in.
I was considering a new EVO next year if they brought the Active Yaw Control into next year's model. But after this development I guess Mitsu will be off my list next spring when I purchase another vehicle. I got the chance to drive a good friend of mine's WRX STi off the dealership lot and I had it for about a week. Very nice vehicle. I just may end up with an STi next spring instead of the EVO
IF Mitsu wanted to kill their sales and image on the import market, then they are doing an outstanding job.
It's also another reason I don't like buying brand new cars.
But I guess this doesn't surprise me. From Mitsu's denial of crankwalk on the 2nd gen DSMs, to other problems they've had with various models.
I can seriously say that they have lost a repeat customer in me as far as buying a new vehicle from them
Why is it that when the EVO came out, dealerships were marking up the prices way over list, and Mitsu never stepped in.
I was considering a new EVO next year if they brought the Active Yaw Control into next year's model. But after this development I guess Mitsu will be off my list next spring when I purchase another vehicle. I got the chance to drive a good friend of mine's WRX STi off the dealership lot and I had it for about a week. Very nice vehicle. I just may end up with an STi next spring instead of the EVO
IF Mitsu wanted to kill their sales and image on the import market, then they are doing an outstanding job.
It's also another reason I don't like buying brand new cars.
Last edited by Rx3; Sep 5, 2003 at 11:00 AM.
Originally posted by Savedsol
I1)It's in the manual, race your car and your warranty is void. It doesn't matter if Mitsu markets the car one way or not.
I1)It's in the manual, race your car and your warranty is void. It doesn't matter if Mitsu markets the car one way or not.
I do not remember seeing this statement anywhere in the ads, which is the source of fine print information for 99% for people making the buying decision. Please, correct me if I am wrong.
When I purchased my EVO, during the runthough of the documentaiton at the dealer - this VERY IMPORTANT warranty disclaimer, especially in view HOW EVO is sold to the masses, WAS NOT highlighted. Which brings up another poll - how many of EVO owners were explicitely notified of this proactively, rather then finding about this from either the manual or when denied repairs?
This is not to diss you or call you a liar StriktlyBidness. I support your need for getting legit warranty coverage.
However, people need to quit being so NAIVE.
First of all, realize that this sad thing happens among a number of manufacurers (including Subaru for example).
I don't agree with this practice at all and see it as counter-proudctive.
Also, most tracks keep info on the people racing. It's pretty easy to get info on who raced and when.
StriktlyBidness you gotta ask to see the photographs, get copies and post them here on the forum.
Now given the 100s of tracks in the US and the 4000 or so EVOs on the road, I highly doubt people are being paid by
corporate just to go watch for the faint possibility of catching an EVO racing. Think about it.
So who would? Who knows the tracks and the owners in the local area? The dealership.
Now I know you said the district rep is the one giving you trouble, but guess where he gets his info from.
Either way, even if
catches you at the track, they have to prove that the damage was a direct result of abuse and not a defect. Photos of you at the track prove NOTHING.
Finally, I'm really getting sick of people ragging on
and making it seem like they are the only ones doing this, or voiding warranties, or having some mechanical issues, or having crappy dealers. GROW UP.
Once you've been around the block as much as I have in as many places as I have, you'll get to understand the business.
StriktlyBidness good luck with your endeavor.
However, people need to quit being so NAIVE.
First of all, realize that this sad thing happens among a number of manufacurers (including Subaru for example).
I don't agree with this practice at all and see it as counter-proudctive.
Also, most tracks keep info on the people racing. It's pretty easy to get info on who raced and when.
StriktlyBidness you gotta ask to see the photographs, get copies and post them here on the forum.
Now given the 100s of tracks in the US and the 4000 or so EVOs on the road, I highly doubt people are being paid by
corporate just to go watch for the faint possibility of catching an EVO racing. Think about it.So who would? Who knows the tracks and the owners in the local area? The dealership.
Now I know you said the district rep is the one giving you trouble, but guess where he gets his info from.
Either way, even if
catches you at the track, they have to prove that the damage was a direct result of abuse and not a defect. Photos of you at the track prove NOTHING.Finally, I'm really getting sick of people ragging on
and making it seem like they are the only ones doing this, or voiding warranties, or having some mechanical issues, or having crappy dealers. GROW UP.Once you've been around the block as much as I have in as many places as I have, you'll get to understand the business.
StriktlyBidness good luck with your endeavor.
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I find it hard to believe that it is more cost effective for Mitsu to pay people to wander around in track events then it would be for them to actually pony up when their cars fail under warranty.
I bet that Mitsu corporate places calls with the local race tracks and asks to review the sign up lists for certain cars or names when there is a warranty issue at hand.
It's a sad and cowardly way for them to go about things....and I am amazed that tracks would even give out that info unless there is $$ in it for them.
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I bet that Mitsu corporate places calls with the local race tracks and asks to review the sign up lists for certain cars or names when there is a warranty issue at hand.
It's a sad and cowardly way for them to go about things....and I am amazed that tracks would even give out that info unless there is $$ in it for them.
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