No, the understanding is that warranteed items should not be voided if the car is used for its intended purspose - in the EVO case this means occasional track/auto-x, just as any other performance automobile.

Some of us are trying to get to live up to a better standard set by performance groups of GM, Ford, Chrysler, Mercedes, Porsche, BMW and others. Being appologetic for saying that there are other car manufacturers that do the same is an admission that is a company that does not care for its customers and does not stand behind their product - I hope that is not the case.

PS: mprtkl, your "examples" of red bull and pike peak are so over the top that they have zero relevance to this discussion and do not help your cause - whatever it is...

 

Mitsu is really going to alienate a lot of people with this stuff. I guess I won't feel too bad when I trade the Evo in for a Skyline GTR (when they get here circa 2005).

 

my examples illustrate if you can read, that .

1. showing a car racing, does not mean that they condone it, i.e. redbull showing people flying, does not condone people jumping out windows.
2. becuase you race, you should get warrantied? Rally racers dont go to dealerships and get warranty work done on their race cars.
now do you unnerstand VR430 or do i have to hold your hand??

 

I've seen people refer to the Magnuson-Moss act time and time again... Please...Find the full version of the act and read it... not the "short" version or the version you heard from someone else. (and I'm not pointing anyone out.) But this protects the normal people...not those of us who feel we need to improve on the car or race it on the weekends. The dealerships are aware of this act. And they also know that they have ways around it when it comes to racing and modify your cars... and that is why it's stated everywhere... your warranty will be voided if you race or modify your car to increase its performance.

 

Here ya go:

http://www.mlmlaw.com/library/guides...anties/toc.htm

Go to the stating of terms part. The manufacturer is still required to prove their case (of course this means legal proceedings...)

 

and in the legal proceeding they'll say....lol?

We have proof that he took his car to the track... and the warranty claims....blah blah blah... and then the judge will say?

We've all covered this a hundred time already... He's started half a dozen threads on this...

The only thing I'll say is...go get a lawyer...(make sure its a good one...Pay alot for him...lol...) and go to court....lose.... come back tell us how you did....and then we will know...till then we can all rest in peace knowing that members of this board will never agree on this topic. lol.....

 

It can't say in your manual the conditions that will void your warrantee, it has to say in the paperwork that you sign up front
Otherwise they have no proof that you read and agree to abide by the terms
For something to be legally binding it must be signed

 

It is not naivette. Factory manuals, agreements, contracts, statements, etc. etc. cannot override federal or state laws on warranty. Period. No uncertain terms, no ifs/ands/buts about it. It is a fact. You cannot make the warranty against factory defects on a transportation vehicle in this country solely contingent on usage. IF they want to deny a claim on a clutch because a car has been to the drag strip, they have every right to under federal law. They CANNOT however arbitrarily void the entire warranty against manufacturing defects due to the fact that you have been seen on a drag strip. ANY denial to a warranty claim must be proven by the warranter.

The fifth gear problem for instance is a good example: There have been numerous instances of Evo's with gearbox problems and specifically with 5th gear grinding. All of them on cars driven for varying amounts of time under varying circumstances over differing amounts of miles/time. The onus is on Mitsubishi to prove that the 5th gear synchros were stressed specifically by the actions of the owner of the vehicle.

 

Sorry, I do not "unnerstand" how your examples are relevant to the discussion at hand - it seems you are the one having comprehension problems.

Nobody here disputes that if YOU broke it, warranty does not apply. If YOU roll off the shoulder at Pike's Peak - it is not a warranty claim to begin with, hence the irrelevance of your rant.

What we are talking about here are items that break during activities such as occasional track/auto-x. Items that OTHER respectable and reputable manufacturers DO cover.

BTW, the only way I'd hold your hand if you were dangling off the 30th floor balcony... Nah, I wouldn't

 

Ummm... basically you're paraphrasing exactly what I said.

The reference to naïveté is in regards to those who are ragging on , caliming they are the only ones doing this.

 

Sorry Kevin, way off topic but Chris, I am working with some people to import JDM Skylines. Not saying it will or won't happen but maybe before 2005 we will have the REAL THING here via DRC IMPORTS

This whole warranty thing is just F%#$ed up ! Mits. is just desperate because they ar afraid they didn't build the car as well as they should have. I would think if you are making a car that is race inspired and rally inspired, WTF do you think people will do with it ? Beef it up and make it last and you don't have to worry about warranty or send spies to tracks.

 

NO...and in fact, I REQUESTED to take the owner's manual home the weekend before I bought the car so I could read it and they denied me that privlige. So how the hell was I suppose to know?

 

Right here is your case against the dealer (not , but the dealer)

 

But did you have it before you went to the track? Just asking?

 

What do you define race? Redlining each gear from any speed? Racing from a roll count? If so, what if I redlined my car to speed up and get on the hwy (assuming after it's well warmed up).

I also believe there are laws out that say the mod must be proven to break your car before they deny warranty. (radio mod can't be held responsible for defective engine).