lets pull cards my car did not sweat to make those numbers I have alot more power to get out my setup so i will lay down way more they stopped only because I Had a soft spring in my Forge MBC. So lets get it right it will be back on the dyno now that the spring was changed. I had no clue when i bought the FORGE MBC 2 years ago it had a soft spring i bought it and never turned the dial on it ever left it for my future build just installed it is all. So plan on my whp going up and tq for only 35psi on soft spring not even a aggressive tuning map i laid that down what do you think is going to happen when jorge goes back to austin??? Come on now. I dont mind the 2.3 but dont downplay the 2.4 because you want to keep a evo block dont downplay the 2.4 because you think you have more power then mine. dont downplay the block because it has no oil squirters. If you want to see a amazing 2.4 setup go look at blkcarbonevos yet again. Extremely impressive and you see ALOT of the shops now jumping on the 2.4 bandwagon. Again the 2.3 is cool and a good motor.

 

you cant go wrong with a 2.4 man ask your tuner tscompusa about them. he will tell you the truth. the 2.3 is not to shabby either if you want to keep your block

 

Ok your car didn't sweat, thats a great use of personification but what does it really mean in terms of reality? Not much your car made what it made and until it makes more it hasn't made more. I can make more power to if I so choose but I like where my powerband sits and I don't wanna push it to the right just to gain more power.

And stop coasting on Mikeys car. Yeah his car is an amazing machine and I am not saying its not but the fact is its more modified then mine. My car maintains a pretty stock appearance.

I am not downplaying the 2.4 I am saying I have a problem with people downplaying the 2.3, your exact words stated I chose the wrong motor. But my "wrong" motor on a smaller turbo and less boost and less displacement has about 50 more ft lb of torque give or take. I hate using those numbers those as its kinda bench numbers as I have to convert it but Ill be outta Iraq in about a week and when I get it on the Dyno jet Ill give you the real numbers.

Bottom line is the 2.4 is a great motor but so is the 2.3 so don't throw it to the wolves. And I still feel the 2.4 is a bit over hyped, something can be good and still be over hyped.

 

I would sit down with whoever is building your engine and discuss it. In addition I would take a look at some 800hp builds on 4cyls and see what guys are doing for compression, bore, stroke, redline, type of fuel used, etc.

There are alot of factors here, your engine builder should be able to do the math and work backwards from 800hp to see if piston speed will be an issue on a 800hp evo build given a certain bore and stroke.

 

Lots of things are overhyped in the evo world and i can name a few and a few shops as well but understand what your saying. People are now discovering the 2.4 nobody ever said lets drop the 2.3 and just go straight to 2.4. Any type of displacement for a more responsive setup is good. by not breaking a sweat mean my map is far from aggressive and did not require tricks etc to pull power out of it which is good. your numbers are great i loved how your tq was higher then you whp i told you that several times

 

Your on the right track, the PTE 6765/ FP HTA3794 would be better suited for a 4g63 2.0L & a LR 2.0L, & or a 4g64 2.1L. Personally I would even consider a 4g64 LR 2.2L.

 

I was told having a 2.3 or 2.4 is harder on the drivetrain, and this might be a influence factor on sticking with a 2.0

 

I got nothing but love for the 2.3... The best way to think about it, is the 2.4L is a good alternative for those people who wish to start a short block build for cheaper, with out any down time.

 

True, so is launching the car...

 

I would say if the strokers are worst on the drive train it would be because the make more torque at the same horse power level. And most people are dumb and think clutches are rated in hp when they in fact are rated in torque.

 

Now this is pretty good to know but I'm greedy I want the 2.4L, I looked on ebay couldn't find anything, guess I would have to look better when the time is right.

 

+1

 

Any evo with 380+ torque is hard on the drivetrain

 

look in the for sale section, ive seen a few

 

My opinion on why the 2.4 is so much greater than a 2.3... If you still have a good 2.0l short block, sell it whole to offset the cost of the 2.4l build. Boom, cheaper