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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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Guys, adding 6mm to the rod length isnt going to magically increase the safe redline a decent amount.
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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Agreed, a bigger engine just is'nt going to be as rev friendly as a smaller one, and thats all there is to it, using better rod ratio's, lighter parts etc is a bonus but its not going to save anyone here.
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 11:28 AM
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But why do you need to rev so high? You think a 2.4 isnt gonna get to redline as fast? My 2.4 Talon in neutral revs 2x as fast as my 2.0 Evo... Not an exaggeration. Hell, I just might make a video of it this weekend for proof.
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 11:32 AM
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I love my 2.3L but the problem is it revs like a bike and you find yourself getting dissapointed you have to shift so early and cant rev it out to 9k + safely.
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Dallas J
But why do you need to rev so high? You think a 2.4 isnt gonna get to redline as fast? My 2.4 Talon in neutral revs 2x as fast as my 2.0 Evo... Not an exaggeration. Hell, I just might make a video of it this weekend for proof.
no need heres proof.. 2.3 same ****; watch the rpm gauge. pretty much revs as fast as a bike. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwyQSS9APMw
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 11:45 AM
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here is a better video you made showing the rpms tscompusa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-Gdq...layer_embedded

im sorry having tons of tq is just whats going to keep you and passengers on edge and being able to hit it quickly
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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That 2nd ones in the summertime, and i believe alittle more torque but less HP.
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tscompusa
no need heres proof.. 2.3 same ****; watch the rpm gauge. pretty much revs as fast as a bike.
Yeah, my 2.4 for is so rev happy which is why I never really understand all the bench racing negativity around it. I love the extra off boost torque and quicker spool, just cant say it enough.
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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A smaller motor will still have a wider powerband assuming its running a big turbo. A 2.4 at best will spool what, 500 rpm earlier? A 2.0 or 2.1 can safely rev 1,000+ rpm more giving you a 500+ rpm advantage.
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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It shouldn't really matter what the latest trend is or who is doing what... here is a link on stroking mitsu motors. Its a good read and explains everything...its not going to make the decision for you....and opinions are like A$$ holes, everyone has one... read it and gain some insight and then decide. Its a good read , I dont take credit for it, just an earlier posting on the topic.....

http://www.kidzuku.com/StrokeOrNot.pdf
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by alanarias22
thats what ive been trying to tell u guys. with the turbo that i am planning on going higher(pte6765) it make some serious power but it spools a bit slower than my current turbo(gt35r).
im trying to push 800whp, but i was kind of worried about my torque being low with that amount of power. so my choises r:
1. stick to the 2.1, rev high- high whp but low torque (current motor)

2. buil a 2.4 sb, low revs- high whp, high torque but slow spooiling from the turbo wont allow the car to show its true power(old plans for my 2.4)

3.built a 2.4 lb, high revs- high whp, high torque, no problem from the spooling of the turbo since i could rev to the moon and ready to kick some ***(new plans)

witch 1 looks better so i could stick to it

as for the drive train: i have the shep ultimate ratio tranny, a quaife in the tc, alumminum drive shaft from AWD, dss stage 5 rear axles, and dss stage 3 front axles, so im not reaaly worried about that.
Dallas has it right, a stroker motor is generally a more complicated setup. You should consider matching your set up with either or both taller/ longer gear ratios and or final drive. Not to mention a built head w/ big cams.

alanarias22 stick w/ a 2.0, LR 2.0, or a 2.1 for the 6765 or 3794...

The high rev/high hp builds are nice but your still pushing the engine pass it's design.
taking a 2.3/ 2.4 & a LR 2.4 beyond 8300-8500 rpms is averaging a mean piston speed of >27ms, most studies I've read typically state to stay whithin at or below 25-26ms for engine longevity(life). A 2.3, & a LR 2.4L build for high hp/high revs is for something like the hta 3586 or 6262.

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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 12:30 AM
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pmed deal on a complete built 2.4 for the guy asking for one
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 03:59 AM
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Im switching from a BR 2.0 to a BR 2.3, both 10-1 motors. The reason is simple, if your building a real drag car with a T3 turbo for 150mph plus the 2.0 is the way to go, for a stock frame turbo such as the stock Ix that peaks before 7k, a Green HTA 7100, Red 7300 or a Black 75ish the 2.3 will yield more power and torque up to 7500. So for me being im trying to keep this car a perfect daily driver with great response the 2.3 will be better with the Green HTA. I am now collecting turbo's to make a comparison run next year, I have a stock IX, Green, and Black, just need a Red now.
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CBRE
Im switching from a BR 2.0 to a BR 2.3, both 10-1 motors. The reason is simple, if your building a real drag car with a T3 turbo for 150mph plus the 2.0 is the way to go, for a stock frame turbo such as the stock Ix that peaks before 7k, a Green HTA 7100, Red 7300 or a Black 75ish the 2.3 will yield more power and torque up to 7500. So for me being im trying to keep this car a perfect daily driver with great response the 2.3 will be better with the Green HTA. I am now collecting turbo's to make a comparison run next year, I have a stock IX, Green, and Black, just need a Red now.
I'm running the BR 2.3 on 10:1 and I'll tell you it is a great street car. I think the green may be a little to small though and would recommend the red but to each his own.
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CBRE
Im switching from a BR 2.0 to a BR 2.3, both 10-1 motors. The reason is simple, if your building a real drag car with a T3 turbo for 150mph plus the 2.0 is the way to go, for a stock frame turbo such as the stock Ix that peaks before 7k, a Green HTA 7100, Red 7300 or a Black 75ish the 2.3 will yield more power and torque up to 7500. So for me being im trying to keep this car a perfect daily driver with great response the 2.3 will be better with the Green HTA. I am now collecting turbo's to make a comparison run next year, I have a stock IX, Green, and Black, just need a Red now.
when you test them I definitely want to know the outcomes please
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