IIRC, your 800hp Evo spent more time on a tow bed than it did on the road. The numbers were big, though.

I'm not trying to be mean, even though you do like to toss this in once in a while with zero backdrop as to your story, but to point to the semi-obvious. We have a car with a number of limitations, as anything else. One of those limitations revolves around the inherent displacement of a 4G63. 800hp from 2.0l as a reliable/usable street car is, well, absurd.

 

I was in the same boat at one point. I got my X and loved it, but after a little while I was already looking to the next step, particularily a gtr.

Then a few months while the X was in winter storage, I opened the garage and stared at it for 20 minutes. Then fired up the engine for a few mintues.

It was at that point I realized the X will never compare to expensive sports cars, no matter how much you mod it. What matters is that for the price I paid, I have a world class handeling car that always puts a smile on my face. That's what matters to me.

I like to use the analogy of food. There will always be that expensive kobe steak that's so delicious albeit pricy. But alot of times a burger and fries will hit the spot just as well.

 

True that even at 600hp on pump gas it was fun as hell , I'm not going to front but when your at those power levels something always goes wrong never blew the engine but every thing around it just got destroyed my biggest problem was the turbo's.

P.S. and for all the money I spent on that evo I would be happier with a GTR with a Flash and downpipes

 

That's an excellent point. If one is after something that only a select few machines can offer, buy that car to begin with. Yes, it's a lot of money, it's a big commitment, but you'll be happier and spend less in the long run. Cry once. I don't mean to sound like the great arbiter of wisdom; it took me decades to realize and actually practice the idea.

 

I agree with blitz. His thinking is the same as mine haha.

I think location has a lot to do with it to. Here where I am, there is only one thing to do, drag race. I have to drive 3-4+ hours to get to a good track to roadrace. When I had my 03 evo, is a stock turbo, mild bolt on car. Had 330 whp. It was a blast sure. Around here though, straight line is the only racing that happens, so it wasnt so fun sometimes lol. If I could get my car on a nice roadcourse track without having to have a trailer and tow rig, I would have a 9 with a bbk, some cams, exhaust and a pumpgas tune.

I dont see any of the high dollar cars around me, EVER. So for me, I just blow them off. I know I wont ever buy one, just cause I wouldnt want to spend the money on one car, when I could have a couple for the same price.

Let me think here, the baddest car I know in town is a 03 cobra putting down 610rwhp. Then you have your older guys with there 500hp classic chargers and whatnot that are running 12s in the 1/4. I guess if I would see porsche's gtr's etc on a regular basis, I might dream of owning one. For me though, the evo is as good as it gets for me. It fairly affordable,take well to mods and what not.

My biggest issue is, I like to build the cars, probably a little more than I like to drive them. This is a bad habit to have lol. It costs a lot of money in the end. I am in the process of building my evo now, and I will hold onto it for a little while. I am sure it will be sold at some point though, Ill get older and have different goals. I already know, when I sell the evo, I am getting something non mitsu. Just time to try something else for a change.

 

I'm sort of worried about this. I have plans to have my car sent to Buschur in March for a build, but, I don't know if it will be everything I want it to be when it's done.

My Evo is my only vehicle, so after this round which would probably be 20-25K I'd probably need something to DD/tow with so I'd need a truck and some kind of trailer.

After looking at all that and seeing what the total is, it would be close to just buying a 2012 GT-R especially if you count how much has already been poured into my car for various things.

I'm still planning on going the Buschur route, buying a new truck and a newish enclosed trailer. I'm just worried about having buyer's remorse a year down the road-especially since a cousin of mine is planning on picking up a 2012 in the spring.

 

20-25k? Wow. What were you planning on having done? PM if you don't want to share here, if you could.

I don't think I could ever drop that much in one sitting.

 

I dropped alot more than that at AMS and still at the end of the day, I perfer the GTR all day just my .02 cent , I took a ride in the alpha 9 and I had a smile on my face from ear to ear Even in stock form, I have a smile on my face

 

If 997 GT3RS' were 100k I'd be trading my M3 in today. The one's that I've searched were $150k+ and that $50k makes a huge difference. You are correct though they depreciate FAST! and the funny thing about Porsche's is the one's for sale at $150k were likely purchased for $180k+ with all of the options. It is certainly true with the Porsche brand that the suckers take the depreciation .

Either way the used ones seem to be pretty solid value wise, they don't depreciate as much going from 2nd buyer on.

This has been my automotive life lesson, unfortunately it came through real world experience and not arbitrary advice .

 

Well just a random search on autotrader shows several 2007 GT3 RS models for less then 100k. The base price on them was 140k not 180k.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...r_id=301360705
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...r_id=309027157
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...r_id=313036319
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...r_id=279706301

 

This is just my opinion but if I had the money to buy a Porsche GT3RS and or an Evo. I would buy the Evo. The money I would save I would put towards track days and auto-x events. The fact that I would be able to drive the Evo ***** out and not worry. If something breaks then I know I can fix it and still have money left in my account. If I had that Porsche I would just keep it in the garage because to me it seems like more of a trophy car than anything else.

 

Porsches are cool cars, I would like to own one but I would absolutely hate working on them. I helped teardown and build some air cooled porsche engines in the past so I am speaking from some experience. I dont like taking my car in for service and I know if I owned a porsche I would hate working on it.

My evo isnt breaking hp records with its current setup but I feel it is really well balanced and is very enjoyable. I wouldnt trade it for a c6 z06, and I dont feel its as fun as some cars I have driven: C55 AMG,C63,E55, E63, and even the CLK 63 black series AMG. I wouldnt trade my current evo or even my last 2L turbo car ( track prepped mr2 turbo) for any of those.


There are things that those cars have that I wish my evo would have. Those cars are much more refined and comfortable, but not something that I personally care enough about to say I would trade it in a heartbeat for it.

I think that a lot of folks mod their car one sided. They focus on just power and drag slip times. They build up a 600++ hp evo but find that its still not as fun as say, a GTR. If you want to build a fun car you have to have balance, not just raw hp. my .02

 

i doubt anyone who has had the oppurtunity to ride in that beast could keep from smiling.

i would give my evo up only for a gt-r. im not all about the fancy leather and heated seats like bmw and porsche and all the fancy crap they have to offer.

i have worked at manheim auction in my past and have driven some high end porsche, bmw, jaguar, etc etc and i personally think they are junk. alot of the jaguars would come through with leaking trunks from the factory and would develop mold under the spare tire area on the board and under the carpet. and this is on brand new vehicles. on the bmws all the fancy smancy buttons that control who knows what would fall off and or not work from my experience. and from working with the mercedes the only thing i can honestly say i liked was they have the best a/c in any car ive ever been in lol. with it turned on full blast it could literally almost develop ice on the front windshield with it on defrost and the a/c on full blast on a 98* sunny day.

the only thing i would miss if i ever have the oppurtunity to switch from my evo to a gt-r would be the clutch pedal and manual trans. ive never been a fan of slapsticks, or paddle shifter deals.

 

Once you drive the GTR for a few days you forget about that clutch pedal.

 

GTRs come standard with heated seats, leather, power adjustable seats, and a bunch of other crap you don't really need too. GTRs are definitely not a bare bones sports car on the same level as a GT3RS (or even an Evo lol).