View Poll Results: Choose which ones will influence your decision
Wow, 300hp, 300 ft-lbs from 2.5L Subaru boxer engine
152
22.25%
Proven tuning potential of the Mitsubishi 4G63
355
51.98%
Subaru\'s strong 6-speed manual tranny
138
20.20%
Mitsubishi\'s dependable 5-speed tranny
109
15.96%
DCCD on the STi... wish Evo had ACD
132
19.33%
Stock FMIC on the Evo
164
24.01%
Exterior looks
305
44.66%
Interior quality
148
21.67%
Gross Vehicle Weight
79
11.57%
I want to test drive both before deciding
165
24.16%
Price
261
38.21%
Body Shell Rigidity
133
19.47%
Brakes
163
23.87%
0 - 60 mph and 1/4 mile times
201
29.43%
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Evo vs. STI | Anything and Everything [ALL THREADS MERGED]
Originally posted by Ben
The only subaru problem is the 5 speed, which is in large part due to abuse. It is weak, but I haven't had any problems with mine.
The 6 speed can handle the STI's power.
I'm a subaru bigot though, so what do I know.
The only subaru problem is the 5 speed, which is in large part due to abuse. It is weak, but I haven't had any problems with mine.
The 6 speed can handle the STI's power.
I'm a subaru bigot though, so what do I know.
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Originally posted by Fireball
It's funny how all the STi biggots talk about Subaru's reliability and how bad the Evo is and vice versa. Personally I've heard a lot more Subaru horror stories than I have Mitsu horror stories.
It's funny how all the STi biggots talk about Subaru's reliability and how bad the Evo is and vice versa. Personally I've heard a lot more Subaru horror stories than I have Mitsu horror stories.
Here in our shores (where JDM and Euro STi's and JDM Evo's are abound), I'd have to say the horror stories mainly come from hard driving on the track.
The only non-track horror story is the Evo clutch (but I wouldn't classify it as "horror").
I myself have blown an engine on the track, but that's my own fault for pushing the car too hard and too long without having proper equipment (read: OIL COOLER).
I'm not a Subaru or Mitsu bigot, but I do drive a Scooby
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600hp Jun STI vs 600hp Cyber EVO
Sup folks,
Just watched new Option Video
600hp Cyber EVO vs 600hp JUN STI in one lap of Tsukuba circuit shootout
EVO did 56sec 
STI did 58 
Just watched new Option Video
600hp Cyber EVO vs 600hp JUN STI in one lap of Tsukuba circuit shootout EVO did 56sec STI did 58
Last edited by 88888888; Jan 12, 2003 at 02:50 AM.
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I can't remember the exact details because I don't own an Evo, but here's what I know/remember (others who know for sure please chime in):
The first batches of JDM Evo VII had a faulty clutch assembly. I can't remember exactly which part of the clutch was affected, but it had something to do with the clamping mechanism. It caused the clutch to wear out WAY prematurely (we're talking about within 3,000 - 5000 miles).
Mitsubishi admitted the fault (I remember finding a link to the Japanese website, in which every damn thing was explained... in Japanese of course, but there were some useful diagrams). Consequently, they issued a recall, and apparently fixed the problem. I said apparently because I have yet to touch base with my fellow Evo owners about it. Most just replace the clutch with a heavy-duty unit, which alleviated the problem somewhat (although the clutch does wear out fast still).
Oh and the other side effect of the faulty clutch was clutch slippage in all gears, especially if the Evo has been modded (increased boost etc. <- not extreme mods).
So there you go I wish I had the link to the Jap page, but being a non-Evo owner I wasn't too interested.
JDM STi on the other hand had a transmission oil pump recall. Only the first batch Type RA's were affected IIRC.
The first batches of JDM Evo VII had a faulty clutch assembly. I can't remember exactly which part of the clutch was affected, but it had something to do with the clamping mechanism. It caused the clutch to wear out WAY prematurely (we're talking about within 3,000 - 5000 miles).
Mitsubishi admitted the fault (I remember finding a link to the Japanese website, in which every damn thing was explained... in Japanese of course, but there were some useful diagrams). Consequently, they issued a recall, and apparently fixed the problem. I said apparently because I have yet to touch base with my fellow Evo owners about it. Most just replace the clutch with a heavy-duty unit, which alleviated the problem somewhat (although the clutch does wear out fast still).
Oh and the other side effect of the faulty clutch was clutch slippage in all gears, especially if the Evo has been modded (increased boost etc. <- not extreme mods).
So there you go
I wish I had the link to the Jap page, but being a non-Evo owner I wasn't too interested.JDM STi on the other hand had a transmission oil pump recall. Only the first batch Type RA's were affected IIRC.
The Rx-8 has a six speed(always a plus), 1.3L NA rotary, 250 horse at 6500rpm's, 159 lb./ft if tourque
at 5500rpms, revs to 9grand, rear wheal drive, it does have a really slick third door that leads to a back seat that I can assure you is cramped.
On the Evo you get a turbo charged 2L, this makes 271chp and apx. 280 tourque
, this goes through a five speed manual tothe awd which I believe is a 2 way rear lsd and a open front diff., and comfortable 5 passanger seating, guarentied to beat the rx8 in probably all competitions(0-60, 1/4 mile, obviously rallying, auto-x, and track).
..But the evo is a couple thousand dollars more than the rx8, in my opinion this is definitely worth the extra dough for the performance and utility advantage you would have over the rx8.
at 5500rpms, revs to 9grand, rear wheal drive, it does have a really slick third door that leads to a back seat that I can assure you is cramped.On the Evo you get a turbo charged 2L, this makes 271chp and apx. 280 tourque
, this goes through a five speed manual tothe awd which I believe is a 2 way rear lsd and a open front diff., and comfortable 5 passanger seating, guarentied to beat the rx8 in probably all competitions(0-60, 1/4 mile, obviously rallying, auto-x, and track)...But the evo is a couple thousand dollars more than the rx8, in my opinion this is definitely worth the extra dough for the performance and utility advantage you would have over the rx8.
Here is the link for the rx-8 spec page on the Mazda site
http://www2.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/rx8...p?linksmart=27
Even though numbers are not everything it seams to me that there is no comparison, unless you are really into na, high rev, low torque, rwd cars.
http://www2.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/rx8...p?linksmart=27
Even though numbers are not everything it seams to me that there is no comparison, unless you are really into na, high rev, low torque, rwd cars.