evo was towed for about 1/4 mile
Originally posted by ex-honda
You just said it.....doing their job. what is their job..........towing cars. what's with the bulldozer analogy
By the way, if you ever read some of those warning about parking illegally, it discloses that the towing company is not liable for damages. At least of some of them.
You just said it.....doing their job. what is their job..........towing cars. what's with the bulldozer analogy
By the way, if you ever read some of those warning about parking illegally, it discloses that the towing company is not liable for damages. At least of some of them.
Originally posted by turborrago
nyevo8 I see youre from the city....dont go to Kopell Mitsu in Qns whatever you do, they are the worst!
nyevo8 I see youre from the city....dont go to Kopell Mitsu in Qns whatever you do, they are the worst!
Ex-honda, you should probably go take a class on business law and business ethics, it even applies to Tow Companies.
Heres a little story:
My roomate parked in a guest spot which has towing from 2-5am, she forgot to move her car and it got towed. When she picked up the car and brought it home she noticed that the back of her car was shattered in pieces which looked like a hit and run. When she picked it up from the tow company it was parked backwards so she didn't see it at first.
We called the police, filed a report and took the car, the sheriff, and myself back to the tow company. They denied knowing anything about the incident and said it was like that when they towed it. While the sheriffs were looking around the yard for evidence I found some pieces of "bumper" from an OLD beat up car that was sitting out front that just so happened to match up to what was found left in her tail lights after they were shattered.
The sheriff confirmed that they were from the car parked in front of the tow company and then the tow company said "Oh our driver who picked up the car isn't here right now but he never reported anything like this." Then they say that they will cover the repair costs to do her a favor and that she should be grateful that they are willing to do that.
Well... in the end, they were still shady, they didn't want to cover the repair costs, or the tow costs, or the rental car costs, they just wanted to give her $1200 (total damage was like 1800 + rental, etc..) so we went to the tow companies insurance which has a deductible of $2000 for the owner....
Moral is: take it as far as you can legally. In this case being shady cost them more than just settling it politely.
Heres a little story:
My roomate parked in a guest spot which has towing from 2-5am, she forgot to move her car and it got towed. When she picked up the car and brought it home she noticed that the back of her car was shattered in pieces which looked like a hit and run. When she picked it up from the tow company it was parked backwards so she didn't see it at first.
We called the police, filed a report and took the car, the sheriff, and myself back to the tow company. They denied knowing anything about the incident and said it was like that when they towed it. While the sheriffs were looking around the yard for evidence I found some pieces of "bumper" from an OLD beat up car that was sitting out front that just so happened to match up to what was found left in her tail lights after they were shattered.
The sheriff confirmed that they were from the car parked in front of the tow company and then the tow company said "Oh our driver who picked up the car isn't here right now but he never reported anything like this." Then they say that they will cover the repair costs to do her a favor and that she should be grateful that they are willing to do that.
Well... in the end, they were still shady, they didn't want to cover the repair costs, or the tow costs, or the rental car costs, they just wanted to give her $1200 (total damage was like 1800 + rental, etc..) so we went to the tow companies insurance which has a deductible of $2000 for the owner....
Moral is: take it as far as you can legally. In this case being shady cost them more than just settling it politely.
Originally posted by ex-honda
it discloses that the towing company is not liable for damages.
it discloses that the towing company is not liable for damages.
Originally posted by ex-honda
I don't know why you guys keeps blaming the Tow company. The guy was parked illegally. It is not the job of the towing company to be "courteous" to any vehicle. There job is to tow any vechicle that is illegally park. That's how they make money, on the amount of tows they get. Do you really think that if the tow company gets a call to tow a car, would they really go out there and see if it's AWD or not? I don't think so. It is the responsibility of the driver of where he/she parks.
On the other hand if I were you, I wouldn't say anything to the dealership and just say it is making some weird noise and leave it at that and let them figure it out.
It's kinda like.............you hate the cops but when you need them, you love them. Just like the tow company. You hate them for towing you car but praise them when they get you out of a jam.
I don't know why you guys keeps blaming the Tow company. The guy was parked illegally. It is not the job of the towing company to be "courteous" to any vehicle. There job is to tow any vechicle that is illegally park. That's how they make money, on the amount of tows they get. Do you really think that if the tow company gets a call to tow a car, would they really go out there and see if it's AWD or not? I don't think so. It is the responsibility of the driver of where he/she parks.
On the other hand if I were you, I wouldn't say anything to the dealership and just say it is making some weird noise and leave it at that and let them figure it out.
It's kinda like.............you hate the cops but when you need them, you love them. Just like the tow company. You hate them for towing you car but praise them when they get you out of a jam.
When the landscaper cuts the water line while digging to plant the shrubs he doesn't have to fix the sprinkler system because it's not his job to use reasonable care?
When the mechanic gets grease all on your upholstery while road testing your car he isn't responsible because it's only his job to be sure the mechanical work is done right but not to cover the seat?
Your theory may be good but it's wrong. Tow companies have a responsibility to exercise reasonable care when towing. They have a responsibility to know how to lift and tow any vehicle as well as if it can't be lifted.
Yes, he was wrong to park there. That is a separate issue and needs no discussion because he already said he was wrong. The tow company was just as wrong to not know what car they were lifting and they need to take responsibility just as readily as they'll take the money on the tow.
I used to do parking enforcement in a small town in CA and we towed cars an average of twice a day.
All the gruff looking tow truck drivers (disregarding the fact they didn't look to intelligent) were very knowledgeable in cars.
At the time I didn't know VW beetles (the old kind) were RWD. One was parked head in against a parking stall and he yanked it out.
I said it's RWD? WTF?
He said "Hitler's Revenge" it's called ah hahaha.
I'll never forget that.
Anyhow, the only reason I could see him doing that is he wanted to make money and he didn't have the means to tow you flat.
All the gruff looking tow truck drivers (disregarding the fact they didn't look to intelligent) were very knowledgeable in cars.
At the time I didn't know VW beetles (the old kind) were RWD. One was parked head in against a parking stall and he yanked it out.
I said it's RWD? WTF?
He said "Hitler's Revenge" it's called ah hahaha.
I'll never forget that.
Anyhow, the only reason I could see him doing that is he wanted to make money and he didn't have the means to tow you flat.
I doubt anything is majorly wrong!
If you really want to have it checked which I think you should.. I would go to a performance shop or good shop other than mitsu in your area.. have them take a look at it and then take it from there... take it up with the towtruck company at that point if it doesnt go well with them you still have mitsu on your side.. I wouldnt go running into mitsu at all until you know something is wrong and that the towtruck company isnt going to fix it ..
Re: I doubt anything is majorly wrong!
Originally posted by need4speedny
If you really want to have it checked which I think you should.. I would go to a performance shop or good shop other than mitsu in your area.. have them take a look at it and then take it from there... take it up with the towtruck company at that point if it doesnt go well with them you still have mitsu on your side.. I wouldnt go running into mitsu at all until you know something is wrong and that the towtruck company isnt going to fix it ..
If you really want to have it checked which I think you should.. I would go to a performance shop or good shop other than mitsu in your area.. have them take a look at it and then take it from there... take it up with the towtruck company at that point if it doesnt go well with them you still have mitsu on your side.. I wouldnt go running into mitsu at all until you know something is wrong and that the towtruck company isnt going to fix it ..
i am actually going to do this on monday, i am going to a mechanic that i trust and known for many years and he is going to check it out. i have cancelled my apoitment with mitsu, for now.
does anybody know how the car would act, lets say nailing it around a turn, if the limited slip center was damaged (as iodine23 said earlier in this thread)
The easiest way to check for a seized diff is to turn slowly in 1st gear at full lock - if the diff is seized the car will react as if the steering wheel is connected to the brake pedal, and you'll have to give a lot of throttle to make the car move, and then the car should start crabbing, you may hear the inside rear wheel chatter.
Drain the oil and look for gold powder - if the diff uses the same shimming style as the DSM, the shim are brass and they will have been ground away when the diff was spinning like crazy. Since there are no synchro rings in the housing (unlike DSMs), this will be the only source of brass debris.
For the Eclipse, Mitsubishi has a detailed test procedure to check for damaged diffs, I'm sure they have the same for the EVO. It takes about 15-30 minutes on the lift and it's non-intrusive. This is a much better bet unless your trusted mechanic is an ex-Mitsu tech.
Checking the VC is harder as it has a range of torque values. Hopefully they're as cheap and easy to replace as they are in a DSM.
Charles
Drain the oil and look for gold powder - if the diff uses the same shimming style as the DSM, the shim are brass and they will have been ground away when the diff was spinning like crazy. Since there are no synchro rings in the housing (unlike DSMs), this will be the only source of brass debris.
For the Eclipse, Mitsubishi has a detailed test procedure to check for damaged diffs, I'm sure they have the same for the EVO. It takes about 15-30 minutes on the lift and it's non-intrusive. This is a much better bet unless your trusted mechanic is an ex-Mitsu tech.
Checking the VC is harder as it has a range of torque values. Hopefully they're as cheap and easy to replace as they are in a DSM.
Charles
FIRST THING IS FIRST
contact a traffic violation smart lawyer and see if he can find exactly what to do in this case, such as to see if they are liable to damage to your car n stuff.
contact a traffic violation smart lawyer and see if he can find exactly what to do in this case, such as to see if they are liable to damage to your car n stuff.
Don't listen to the tow company.... they are mandated by state and fed law to carry insurance in case they mess up your vech. get a lawyer and go after them... they are responsible...
Yup I would go with the lawyer and if they still didn't end up paying I would go after some of their property
Oourse this is assuming the damage was bad enough for me to warrant doing such a deviant act
Oourse this is assuming the damage was bad enough for me to warrant doing such a deviant act
I took these bastards to court, and what did I get? NOTHING. I even took them on in district court, and still.. nothing. AND I WON both times! These people are the scum of the earth, and if they didn't flatbed your car then they need to pay for everything.
Hell, even if they just towed it on a flatbed, take em on. You have nothing to lose.
WXgrl
Hell, even if they just towed it on a flatbed, take em on. You have nothing to lose.
WXgrl
Originally Posted by Ookami
Have the whole drivetrain checked, if there's any damage or damage that can occur later go after the towing company. Hell I say go after them anyways. I hate towing companies they're utter scum rarely are they there to "help". I see them trolling the city streets looking to tow and screw people for an outrageous $90+ dollars for an half hour (or less) of work. My friend went to small claims court and won against a towing company then they had the nerve to appeal it and lost again YET they still haven't paid up.
You are in the RIGHT on this one! The towing company @#$*ed up!
You are in the RIGHT on this one! The towing company @#$*ed up!
Street justice is the only way to extract true and immediate satisfaction.... the courts suck. Drive the car see if it has any problems, given the short distance you may be getting all freaked out over nothing. The cops towed my Evo the other night and I told them I will wait until the flat bed shows up.
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