Confused regarding realistic performannce???
#35
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The more I look at your dyno sheet, the more I am convinced the turbo is the problem. Your hp tops out at 364hp around 5800rpm, then immediately drops. That is literally one of the worst power bands I have ever seen.
I suggest picking up a good condition used Evo IX turbo, swapping it in, and getting a remote tune. Then see if your car is about where a stock turbo evo should be.
I suggest picking up a good condition used Evo IX turbo, swapping it in, and getting a remote tune. Then see if your car is about where a stock turbo evo should be.
#36
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There's scaling issues with those dyno sheets.
The lines don't cross at all so they're worthless.
Even though they say HP and ft lbs, they're not.
Maybe the gear ratio has been entered wrongly, that makes the RPM scale wrong as well as the power output.
The lines don't cross at all so they're worthless.
Even though they say HP and ft lbs, they're not.
Maybe the gear ratio has been entered wrongly, that makes the RPM scale wrong as well as the power output.
#40
Evolved Member
do some research in the tuning forum, look for something similar to your setup and compare. Don't go thinking you have wasted your money, all Evo's are a waste of money that's part of the scene. 360 hp on the track is a good workable output and on the street in Au well is it needed?..lol Anyway as everyone has said look at a E tune or alternate turbo's, yes more waste of money but if your searching for over 400 you got to fork it out down here mate, I'm pushing 320 and will run all day every day at the track and have a heap of fun and the car came like that, If I was going up I'd look at an FP red BB at a minimum but if your not on e85 you need a big turbo, so money time.
#41
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So, if i am reading correctly you are running an 2.3 l Stroker with an GT3582 ATP Kit.
Here in germany we had a few cars done with the very same setup we had to run them with higher boost.
All Numbers are for EU 98 Pump ( 93/94 Pump us ):
To get roughly 500 FWHP you need to have at least 1.9 Bar Boost ( 28 Psi ) in the upper rpm range...reason is that you will choke the Turbo Exhaust housing past 6000 RPM ( 6800 on an 2.0 liter ) , so you didnt get air into the engine.
We are mapping for extended WOT on the highways since its possible.
Relatively low timing with the afr´s in the 10 ( 11- 10.8 from 5500 RPM up ) so the chambers will be cooled from fuel ( similiar that what the stock ecu is mapped )
Dyno numbers are an problem since all of our dynos are the Maha ones ( similar to Mustang ) but different measurement routine. ( WHP mesurement during acc. , Losses measured during Rollout, combined -> FWHP ) which is very accurate for FWHP..
Possible Power on that setup with NO extended WOT highest gear is roughly 580 FWHP on 98 Octane Pump. Boost will be in the 2.1 Bar or 32 Psi Range
The same turbos in an real setup ( tubular Manifold V-Band Turbo set ) will have app 50-80 Hp more than in the ATP reverse setup. always on pump 98..
With that setup the boost can be a tad lower...app 5 Psi for same power
Here in germany we had a few cars done with the very same setup we had to run them with higher boost.
All Numbers are for EU 98 Pump ( 93/94 Pump us ):
To get roughly 500 FWHP you need to have at least 1.9 Bar Boost ( 28 Psi ) in the upper rpm range...reason is that you will choke the Turbo Exhaust housing past 6000 RPM ( 6800 on an 2.0 liter ) , so you didnt get air into the engine.
We are mapping for extended WOT on the highways since its possible.
Relatively low timing with the afr´s in the 10 ( 11- 10.8 from 5500 RPM up ) so the chambers will be cooled from fuel ( similiar that what the stock ecu is mapped )
Dyno numbers are an problem since all of our dynos are the Maha ones ( similar to Mustang ) but different measurement routine. ( WHP mesurement during acc. , Losses measured during Rollout, combined -> FWHP ) which is very accurate for FWHP..
Possible Power on that setup with NO extended WOT highest gear is roughly 580 FWHP on 98 Octane Pump. Boost will be in the 2.1 Bar or 32 Psi Range
The same turbos in an real setup ( tubular Manifold V-Band Turbo set ) will have app 50-80 Hp more than in the ATP reverse setup. always on pump 98..
With that setup the boost can be a tad lower...app 5 Psi for same power
#42
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#44
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Those meatheads have the dyno settings all screwed up. 364 horsepower @ 6000rpm backwards calculation would be 318 foot pounds of torque. Looking at your boost curve there is no way any of the graph is accurate. It doesn't even tell you what rpm any of the data is recorded at! Someone has screwed up that dyno settings. Call TScomp and get somebody who knows what they are doing or your gonna be buying lots of new parts when they blow it up.
#45
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Look at 4960rpm your at 275hp, well that equals 290 foot pounds of torque at that same rpm. You tell me? Hp is calculated from torque and rpm, there is nowhere on that graph torque could be even close to 533 foot pounds. It's so messed up, and if the guy running the dyno can't see that, he has no business tuning cars.
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