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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Fob
A few things for Corey to ponder:

-There is a common thing called "manufacturer's defects". Mitsubishi's cars aren't the most reliable. In fact, they just issued a giant recall because they got busted for covering up their defects a few years back.

-Consider YOURSELF lucky, because your car hasn't broken down. If it does happen, would you raise hell at your dealership, or just pay the repair bill happily with your hard earned money?
We have several long lived polls regarding EVO owners and problems with their EVOs. The majority of folks have had little to no problems with their car.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...highlight=poll

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...highlight=poll

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...highlight=poll

I could copy/paste more links, but my point should be clear. The car is built fine, it is the children folks, the children!
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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What a bunch of babies.

Corey, your points are well made.
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Fob
A few things for Corey to ponder:

-There is a common thing called "manufacturer's defects". Mitsubishi's cars aren't the most reliable. In fact, they just issued a giant recall because they got busted for covering up their defects a few years back.

-Consider YOURSELF lucky, because your car hasn't broken down. If it does happen, would you raise hell at your dealership, or just pay the repair bill happily with your hard earned money?

-Don't be so bittered. There are parents who will do anything for their kids to make them happy. Your parents weren't like that. Mine weren't either, what's the big deal?

-We're here because we love our Evos, doesn't matter who pays for it. The forum provides the opportunity for socializing and sharing our opinion/experience. Please allow everyone to enjoy their cars and the whole experience of the club, and save your argument
I undersatnd why people would be so mad, I've had problems in the past with cars. I'll give you guys some examples.

My ITR. Driving about 75 mph and accidently shifted to 2nd when I needed to go into 4th. Results? Every intake valve was bent and my car would idle under it's own power. I called the dealer and told them what happened with my car STILL under warrenty. Since I was so honest they paid for parts and I paid for the labor.

my 03' Cobra. Had about 5000 miles on it and it all of a sudden starts smoking when you start it up. Took it to the dealer 3 times for that, 2 times for condensation in the fog lights, 2 time for something in the rear end popping, and to top it off I really got screwed over by the original I bought it from. That's another story though. I was pissed about the car, but I finally did something since no one else did. I GOT RID OF IT.

My Evo. I was getting this howling sound coming from my car when I was in reverse and barely moving. Kinda sounded like squealing brakes. Dealer looked at it and told me that the flywheel needed to be turned. He said that just taking off hard could cause that, but I knew that I've launched my car numerous times at the track. He told me it could be fixed under warrenty, but I was over my 12,000 mile cluch warrenty. He told me that I woudln't hurt my car so I didn't go any furhter with it. Now the sound is completely gone.

Every car I've owned has been a 5 speed or 6 speed. I've never had a clutch go out in any of them besides my ITR. In that situation, I had over40 thousand miles on it and the clutch went out. The dealer told me if the clutch is worn out then I'd have to pay for it and if the clutch was broke then it would be covered. I knew it was broke cause it just stopped going into gear. My clutch was covered and fixed because it broke, not because it was worn out.

I work for a car manufacturer so I know what goes on about "manufacturers defects." If there is a defect we catch it before any units leave the plant and are fixed out in the yard or pulled back in after shift and are fixed by repair.

If I was having problems with my car I would be at the dealer getting them fixed. If I caused them I wouldn't. Not saying all of you are the blame for the clutches, but you know who you are. Me and my dealer have a understanding with one another. They know I have mods and they know that I will not come in there and try to get something fixed that I altered.

I don't know what else to tell some of you. I don't know if you guys didn't break the clutches in right, if you abuse it, or if you have a faulty clutch. I hope you guys get everything taken care of, but I just don't see it happening with the clutch. Just to give a bit of advise, you do have a 12,000 mile warrenty on your clutch. Now if they get in there and it is worn I'm going to say that the dealer is gonna blame you and not the clutch.
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Corey
So your basically saying your going on your third clutch? What are the chances of you getting a bad one from Mitsu and then buying another and get another bad one? I just don't see it sorry. You letting your kids drive your car?

I don't understand how I made you feel like a idiot in regards of money. I never mentioned how much I make and what not. All I mentioned was THAT I WORKED FOR IT AND PAID FOR IT MYSELF. Actually, now I don't work hard like I did when I was younger so the work thing isn't that much of a big deal to me. I worked hard for what I wanted and saved when I was younger to buy what I wanted. Something every young person should do. It shows responsibility and it helps you mature.

Like I've said in two other past posts. This was pointed more to the younger Evo drivers. If you can't understand that, then I'm sorry. I don't have kids and I"m also not rich at this point in time. Nor do I plan on being rich anytime soon, but when I have kids they will grow up and they won't have things handed to them. I'll help them out when needed like all parents should, but you best believe I will not go into $30,000 in debt to buy them a car to go to school because of their good grades. Kids are suppose to get good grades in school. Just like your not suppose to go to jail and just like your suppose to pay child support. You see a pattern here?

The only reason I can think you are taking so much of a offense to this is because your the type of parent that is being talked about. If so....I'm glad you can afford to do those things for your kids. I'll be able to do it as well. I'll just be choosing a different path to bring up my children.
Hi Corey!!

NO I (ONLY)HAD MY CLUTCH CHANGED ONCE, BUT IT SHOULD NOT HAVE BURNED OUT AT ALL. NO MORE ABOUT THAT!!
NO MOST PEOPLE THAT GO TO JAIL BELONG THERE, YOU SEE THE PATTERN, LISTEN I DONT KNOW YOU AND YOU DONT KNOW ME, LET'S NOT THROW ANY MORE DIRT ON EACH OTHER, PEACE.
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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Bustmac, you don't need to use caps every time you post.
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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That is fine with me. I never spoke to you in the first place until you quoted me. Like I said, I hope you get everything taken care of and hope you will eventually be happy with your car. That goes to eveyone that are experiencing problems with the clutch. If I offeneded you.....I will be a better man and apologize, but that is just the way I feel about somethings. I have the tendency of saying what I feel.

A truce is fine with me.
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Fob
A few things for Corey to ponder:

-There is a common thing called "manufacturer's defects". Mitsubishi's cars aren't the most reliable. In fact, they just issued a giant recall because they got busted for covering up their defects a few years back.

-Consider YOURSELF lucky, because your car hasn't broken down. If it does happen, would you raise hell at your dealership, or just pay the repair bill happily with your hard earned money?

-Don't be so bittered. There are parents who will do anything for their kids to make them happy. Your parents weren't like that. Mine weren't either, what's the big deal?

-We're here because we love our Evos, doesn't matter who pays for it. The forum provides the opportunity for socializing and sharing our opinion/experience. Please allow everyone to enjoy their cars and the whole experience of the club, and save your argument
I wholeheartly agree with above. After reading many thread of EVO owners having issues with their vehicle, MANY people seem to get all defensive as if the owners of vehicles having problems are personally attacking them.

People need to realize that just because another person's Evo has a defect and yours doesn't, you should not automatically default to "driver error" or "abuse".

Every EVO is not an exact representative of the whole. Some people are very lucky to get that random distribution of EVO's that could go a lifetime trouble free. Two owners locally here have had their synchros replaced (3rd gear and 5th gear) under warranty and I personally know them both, very unfortunate, especially to people who takes very good care of their car.

My rotors warped starting at 1,000 miles and at 3,000 they had gotten so bad that I had to get them shaved under warranty but unfortunately the problem returned less than 1,000 miles later.

Some misinformed or misguided people out there without all the facts will jump to conclusion that I must be abusing my car or I must not know how to drive or is doing something wrong. All, without even knowing me or how I treat my car.

Other helpful EVO owners will ask questions like.... did you ever washed your rotors when they were hot, or are your lug nuts torque correctly? Were you involved in any collision? And possibly offers their knowledge of the brakes system that may help lead to the root cause and rectify the problem.

There will always be people like the former but there are many good folks like the latter who provide values to the board and help others rather than criticize others without knowing all the facts.

All I'm saying is that give our fellow EVO owners a benefit of a doubt and don't be so hasty to blame them for the problems they're experiencing. People generally post because they're seeking help and not looking for criticism from others.
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lightsped
We have several long lived polls regarding EVO owners and problems with their EVOs. The majority of folks have had little to no problems with their car.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...highlight=poll

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...highlight=poll

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...highlight=poll

I could copy/paste more links, but my point should be clear. The car is built fine, it is the children folks, the children!
Let's hope the numbers on these polls are not scientifically reliable because those are the kinds of numbers that will make Mitsubishi cry. The polls do show that most people don't have problems but 20% of the people do. That's an extremely high number.
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 10:51 PM
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You say your parents help you out for the most part? That is still being sponsored by mom and pops racing to me. You wouldn't be driving that car if you had to flip the bill on a 500-600 something a month car payment and had to get a $30,000 loan by yourself.
You got me, i'm busted. I was 18 when I got my Evo, and I didn't pay that $525 a month bill by myself, or get a $30k loan by myself, or put $10k down by myself.

Just kidding, actually I did. But last I checked the "stereotype of the year" award goes to "people under 21 don't know how to drive and can't earn money themselves."

Oh yeah, did I mention i'm 19 and my evo is paid off. LOL sucks to be poor, err I mean you.

Also, I never claim to be the best driver. I owned a del sol for about a month before I got my evo, is the only way I learned to drive a stick. But a bad driver I am not. Just because i'm young doesn't make me immature or a bad driver. I've probably been through more and seen more things (things that make you think about your future and mature faster) than most of you stereotypical people.

/rant off, have fun ripping this apart!
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 12:17 AM
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I'm with Forbiden... I to am 19 and I make my payments by myself and the loan is in my name... Not everyone young has someone hold their hand, we just might have grown up a little faster than some of you "adults" around here...

Bottom line - Everyone is different, and stereotyping is just stupid..
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 08:18 AM
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Dont player hate congradulate. Im sorry but really how do you sum up a good driver? I live in atlanta and go on most major interstates everyday. I base my driving skills on how I drive compared to the other drivers on the road that I see nearly loose there lives every day. And how I avoid the accidents that nearly happened in a huge van none the less. I like being cocky but not to the point where it could endanger other people and there lives I mean its not really worth it to me. Most people that drive with me say I am one of the better drivers they have ridden with which means alot to me. And just like every car you have to learn to drive it. The one thing that has helped me was keeping myself calm because a road rage ticket is a biatch. Just my thoughts thanks.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 09:50 AM
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My evo is the same thing. i've had so many problems with it and i've brought it to the dealership to get it fixed so many time, and i even think its a lemon. but anyways at 3000miles it over heated! at 3000! ther had to be something wrong with it, but i got that fixed under warranty. Also i had to get a new front link suspension because apparently my wheel was hitting a bushing? so they fixed me up with a new front link suspension. I've had many problems with my car, but i still love it.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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Forbiden.....You try to say your mature by paying for your car and them try to belittle me by saying I'm poor becuase I have a monthly car payment. You show your age real well. I'm by no means poor.

It's good that you and dmans_evo pay for your cars. I bet you ain't beating the snot out of them knowing you'll have to pay to fix it like some people do. If you can afford to fix it, them break it if you want. I just gets old IMO.

Like I said....I hope you people get your problems fixed so you can enjoy your Evo's. Just don't enjoy them too much because you'll be finding your self in the same situation your in now.

Have a good day.
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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I'm a little confused.. You bought the car at 18, correct? Put down 10Gs, correct? Payments of $525 a month, correct? Unless I missed something, if so I apologize!

First, how is it allready paid off a year later? At $525 a month I think you'd still have some time to go. Did you just fall into $20,000, or did you 'someone' help you out a little?

Second, I grabbed a little loan calculator (can find them online, all over) and figured $30,000 car, $10,000 down, so $20,000 balance (as stated above). Then I put the numbers in, at a decent (if you are as responsible as you say you are) rate of 4.00% and the payments come out to $368.33. If you got all the money and are so responsible why was your payment so high?

Sorry, I'm just trying to crunch the numbers, and they aren't quite adding up. Not that it makes you a bad driver, mind you (I'm in no way saying that). But, uhm..

BS!

Originally Posted by Forbiden
You got me, i'm busted. I was 18 when I got my Evo, and I didn't pay that $525 a month bill by myself, or get a $30k loan by myself, or put $10k down by myself.

Just kidding, actually I did. But last I checked the "stereotype of the year" award goes to "people under 21 don't know how to drive and can't earn money themselves."

Oh yeah, did I mention i'm 19 and my evo is paid off. LOL sucks to be poor, err I mean you.

Also, I never claim to be the best driver. I owned a del sol for about a month before I got my evo, is the only way I learned to drive a stick. But a bad driver I am not. Just because i'm young doesn't make me immature or a bad driver. I've probably been through more and seen more things (things that make you think about your future and mature faster) than most of you stereotypical people.

/rant off, have fun ripping this apart!
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by siantjab
I'm a little confused.. You bought the car at 18, correct? Put down 10Gs, correct? Payments of $525 a month, correct? Unless I missed something, if so I apologize!

First, how is it allready paid off a year later? At $525 a month I think you'd still have some time to go. Did you just fall into $20,000, or did you 'someone' help you out a little?

Second, I grabbed a little loan calculator (can find them online, all over) and figured $30,000 car, $10,000 down, so $20,000 balance (as stated above). Then I put the numbers in, at a decent (if you are as responsible as you say you are) rate of 4.00% and the payments come out to $368.33. If you got all the money and are so responsible why was your payment so high?

Sorry, I'm just trying to crunch the numbers, and they aren't quite adding up. Not that it makes you a bad driver, mind you (I'm in no way saying that). But, uhm..

BS!


Who goes this far out of there way to try to prove someone wrong? Do you want these bickering posts to continue. go find something productive to do
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