Notices
Evo X Dyno Results Discuss vendor and member dyno tuning techniques, results and graphs.

AMS Truth in Results: Full AMS Exhaust Test

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 1, 2009 | 03:05 PM
  #31  
AutoMotoSports's Avatar
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (42)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 6,132
Likes: 3
From: West Chicago, IL
Originally Posted by elpoole
Misleading.

It was the DP that made the difference and we are not sure if the AMS is better than any others because it wasnt a complete name brand setup switched to another complete name brand setup.
We have done back to back tests with our downpipe only on cars and typical results are 15-20whp. This car picked up 30...I think its safe to say some of that is coming from the rest of the exhaust system that was changed out.

Even in the event it was just from the downpipe that is even more reason to run an AMS widemouth Downpipe

Eric

Last edited by AutoMotoSports; Sep 1, 2009 at 03:07 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2009 | 03:06 PM
  #32  
AutoMotoSports's Avatar
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (42)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 6,132
Likes: 3
From: West Chicago, IL
Originally Posted by Sean@Iveytune
These results look about right.

There is nothing odd about these results.

As one of the largest users of AMS parts I can tell you the parts work even better when used in combination.

Sometimes using them with outside parts doesn't provide the desired result. :-)

Sean
Thank you Sean! This is true as our line of parts are designed and engineered to work in conjunction with other AMS parts. The fact that its working better with a full AMS system makes sense.

Eric
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2009 | 07:47 PM
  #33  
fmax420's Avatar
Newbie
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX
Originally Posted by gizmotoy
I don't think I've ever seen a true 3" inner diameter exahust. They're pretty much all 3" with a 0.05" wall thickness, which I assume is because that's what the tube stock is typically available in. Most of the systems I see just quote the 3" outer diameter and make no mention of wall thickness, and I was surprised to see AMS went into that much detail on their specs.

In any case, it is 3" all the way through, according to their page.
I have the Blitz Nur Spec C-Ti catback. 3.15" outside diameter, about 3" inner diameter. The jdm tubing comes in 80mm.
I am also running the AMS widemouth downpipe and I love it.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2009 | 08:22 AM
  #34  
08MR's Avatar
Newbie
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
From: Off The Grid
Originally Posted by Chris@AMS
That would be very odd to pick up only 9hp from those modificaitons. What type of dyno was it done on?

-Chris
DynoJet
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2009 | 08:34 AM
  #35  
08MR's Avatar
Newbie
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
From: Off The Grid
Originally Posted by AutoMotoSports
something certainly isnt right here.

same dyno both times?
Was boost altered at all?
wast the car tuned following those parts being installed?

Eric
Eric thanks for your reply. Please see the information below.

same dyno both times? Yes all 3 times - DynoJet
Was boost altered at all? I will find out
wast the car tuned following those parts being installed?
Yes in the following order:
Stage 1 - 309AWHP292AWTQ with HKS-Drop-In only
Stage 2 - 318AWHP/303AWTQ with HKS Drop-In/AMS FMIC/AMS TP/Buschur Cross Flow CBE
Stage 3 - 312AHWP/295AWTQ with HKS Drop-In/AMS FMIC/AMS TP/Buschur Cross Flow CBE/AMS Intake/AMS UICP/MXP Downpipe
Stage 4 - 330AWHP/334AWTQ with AEM CAI/ETS FMIC/ETS UICP/ETS LICP/ETS HFC w/ CEL Fix/ETS Downpipe/Buschur Cross Flow CBE


Thanks Sean for your input.

Last edited by 08MR; Jan 26, 2010 at 03:34 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2009 | 12:48 PM
  #36  
mlomker's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,468
Likes: 0
From: Saint Paul
Originally Posted by cnj4ever
i would of liked to see would be the difference between a downpipe by itself then the test pipe or vece versa.
Once you factor in the difficulty of installation, the test pipe is the obvious choice. I've decided to hire a shop to install the DP after reading the install threads on here (4 hr install without a lift & a few people break bolts off in the turbo requiring removal of the turbo to fix it).

Last edited by mlomker; Sep 2, 2009 at 12:51 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2009 | 01:03 PM
  #37  
ssg_petty_210's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,187
Likes: 1
From: Texas
just a quick question. i am a big ams fan, but i had a friend that had is car tuned, then later did a stroker kit. ams you guys tuned his car and he recieved 1hp to the wheels. he later had many problems, and people at ams said that it is his problem not theirs. i want to know whats up with that, because im a little nervous dealing with ams after hearing this. pm me if you want or reply here, but i would like to know, and i think others would to.
Reply
Old Sep 3, 2009 | 09:47 AM
  #38  
Dan@AMS's Avatar
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
From: Chicago
Originally Posted by sgt_petty_210
just a quick question. i am a big ams fan, but i had a friend that had is car tuned, then later did a stroker kit. ams you guys tuned his car and he recieved 1hp to the wheels. he later had many problems, and people at ams said that it is his problem not theirs. i want to know whats up with that, because im a little nervous dealing with ams after hearing this. pm me if you want or reply here, but i would like to know, and i think others would to.

Generally speaking we see a mild HP gain when going to a 2.3. Several factors can affect how much or little that is ie: Compression, Cam selection, climate etc. The major benefit of going with a stroker motor to improve spool time and thusly torque as well. You mentioned it was only a 1hp difference….was that a comparison of peak numbers? The reason I ask is if the turbo was close to its limit before the 2.3 then the 2.3 is really not going to allow it to make more HP. The more pertinent comparison would be the entire graph itself, mid range, spool up etc. Peak numbers are just that…peak. The entire curve it what is more important. I would be interested in seeing that.

First and foremost I am sorry that he was having problems with the car afterwards. What where these problems? I assure you whomever he talked had no intention of coming across how he did. Sometimes in times of haste here at the shop we can sound a bit rushed and preoccupied due to the number of calls we get. If he felt he was not treated fairly I would kindly ask that you please give us a chance to redeem ourselves and show you why we value our customer service so highly. We would love to talk your friend through any problems he might have or had. Thank you and again we do apologize for coming off as anything other than helpful.
Reply
Old Sep 3, 2009 | 11:04 AM
  #39  
ssg_petty_210's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,187
Likes: 1
From: Texas
Dan, thanks for replying. Well of course i am still a big fan of AMS, and plan on doing business with you all. I dont remember exactly what problems he is having, but i know the car is parked in his garage caues it isnt running properly. So he is riding around in his girlfriends evo. I will let him know that AMS sends apologies and would like to speak with him. Again thanks for replying. Robert
Reply
Old Sep 3, 2009 | 11:55 AM
  #40  
coevolve's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 81
Likes: 0
From: Northern VA
(sorry couldn't help it)
Dan, thanks for replying. Well of course i am still a big fan of AMS, and plan on doing business with you all. I dont remember exactly what problems he is having, but i know the car is parked in his garage caues it isnt running properly. So he is riding around in his girlfriends evo. I will let him know that AMS sends apologies and would like to speak with him. Again thanks for replying. Robert
Conclusion:
my friends car had a problem that i don't know any details about but i thought i would derail this thread to complain about my friends (hearsay) experience. Tell your friend to pick up a phone next time or start his own thread.
talk about sgt petty....

Last edited by coevolve; Sep 3, 2009 at 01:04 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 3, 2009 | 01:30 PM
  #41  
ssg_petty_210's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,187
Likes: 1
From: Texas
Well i was explaining that issue for me. The purpose of the question was for me so that i understand what was going on so that i am comfortable with ams when it comes to my car. Next time understand what you are reading before you talk about derailing a thread. I think this one went over your head.
Reply
Old Sep 3, 2009 | 02:01 PM
  #42  
danielskshin's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 359
Likes: 1
From: Socal
Was this the HKS legamax exhaust? Then you're comparing a car with the stock piping diameter with a 3"

Cool.
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2009 | 07:40 AM
  #43  
moj0's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
From: Dayton, Ohio
cool
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2009 | 10:00 AM
  #44  
migs647's Avatar
Evolved Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,043
Likes: 62
From: Portland
Those gains sound about right for test pipe and down pipe. It would have been nice to compare just the catbacks instead of changing that up as well. There wasn't a constant in the equation because that was changed.
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2009 | 10:38 AM
  #45  
Excalibur's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
From: Abiline/Converse, TX
Nice exhaust. Now I wonder if it would be worth getting rid of the buschur catback for this one. Wonder what the differences would be there.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
David Buschur
EvoX 'For Sale' External Engine / Power
129
Jun 26, 2012 08:56 AM
Boomba Racing
Evo X Dyno Results
14
Jun 14, 2010 02:43 PM
dD Spikey
Evo X Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
315
Aug 17, 2009 05:53 AM
Chris@AMS
09+ Lancer Ralliart General
16
Aug 15, 2009 09:01 AM
Chris@AMS
Automotosports - Illinois
6
Jul 6, 2009 07:31 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:33 PM.