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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 10:35 AM
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Replace OEM door speakers/tweeters and add crossovers.

is there a "how to"/DIY thread about replacing OEM door speakers/tweeters and add crossovers ? tried to search around but no luck. thanks.
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 01:31 PM
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I havent seen one.

Ive considered doing this myself. If I do, Ill end up ordering from Crutchfield for their phone support. They are really good at helping you out if you get stuck.

In theory, its not a difficult project. You are just running speaker wire and mounting the crossover and speakers, really.
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 09:19 PM
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Haven't seen a tutorial, but from what I've gathered, it'll vary depending on if you have the amplified RF/navi system or the non-SSS regular stereo.. or an aftermarket stereo and/or amplifier.

Think I read here (possibly from Migs) that the RF/navi has tweeter and woofer signals already crossed over and split into separate wires coming from the amplifier. So in that scenario you'd probably have to ditch any aftermarket crossover and just replace the speakers.. just plug and play, I guess.

And over at the "other forum", I think I read that the non-SSS stereo has the signal split somewhere in the doors (probably at or near the woofer, with another wire running to the tweeter). In that case you could either install and connect your new crossover before the signal splits.. or you could install it somewhere near the stereo or behind the dash, and run new wires through the doors.

And for an aftermarket stereo or amplifier, it'd probably just be simpler to run all new wiring.. but you probably could use portions of the existing wiring if you wanted.

I'm not 100% sure on all of this, it's just what I remembered reading.. good luck!
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 04:27 PM
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Haven't seen a tutorial, but from what I've gathered, it'll vary depending on if you have the amplified RF/navi system or the non-SSS regular stereo.. or an aftermarket stereo and/or amplifier.

Think I read here (possibly from Migs) that the RF/navi has tweeter and woofer signals already crossed over and split into separate wires coming from the amplifier. So in that scenario you'd probably have to ditch any aftermarket crossover and just replace the speakers.. just plug and play, I guess.

And over at the "other forum", I think I read that the non-SSS stereo has the signal split somewhere in the doors (probably at or near the woofer, with another wire running to the tweeter). In that case you could either install and connect your new crossover before the signal splits.. or you could install it somewhere near the stereo or behind the dash, and run new wires through the doors.

And for an aftermarket stereo or amplifier, it'd probably just be simpler to run all new wiring.. but you probably could use portions of the existing wiring if you wanted.

I'm not 100% sure on all of this, it's just what I remembered reading.. good luck!
i dont have upgraded audio system from factory, just the basic single disc, 7 speakers. no amp.

i just want to upgrade some door speakers. not sure if that would make a much difference without new amp lol
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jackfrog
i dont have upgraded audio system from factory, just the basic single disc, 7 speakers. no amp.

i just want to upgrade some door speakers. not sure if that would make a much difference without new amp lol
Just found this thread, and it might have some useful info and opinions on doing just a speaker replacement for the non-SSS stereo..

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...change-do.html

And this one, for putting in co-axes in non-SSS (has good info about cutting the stock speakers to re-use as a mounting adapter)..

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/to...er-change.html

And lastly, I found this post over at the other forum that should help with wiring in aftermarket components with an external crossover..

Originally Posted by mad viii
I just did a component install in my 2010 sportback (non RF)... I can verify that the factory tweet is just tapped into the mid wiring and not until after it runs into the door. I just ran new wires for the the woofer and tweeter into each front door... the rear doors are coax so you can cut the wires at the pillar... just be aware the color code flips from inside the door to outside the door.
Also, it probably wouldn't hurt to add some sound deadening to the doors while your at it..

http://www.caraudio.com/forums/speak...ening-you.html

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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AFD
Just found this thread, and it might have some useful info and opinions on doing just a speaker replacement for the non-SSS stereo..

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...change-do.html

And this one, for putting in co-axes in non-SSS (has good info about cutting the stock speakers to re-use as a mounting adapter)..

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/to...er-change.html

And lastly, I found this post over at the other forum that should help with wiring in aftermarket components with an external crossover..



Also, it probably wouldn't hurt to add some sound deadening to the doors while your at it..

http://www.caraudio.com/forums/speak...ening-you.html

this is awesome information ! thanks!
im going to get everything i need and start this audio project in my car lol
im very interested in doing some deadening to the doors, had you done that before? where the best i can get the materials i need?
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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Also, it probably wouldn't hurt to add some sound deadening to the doors while your at it..

http://www.caraudio.com/forums/speak...ening-you.html

do you see how he sealed the speakers? that is non-hardening modelling clay? can i use something else to seal the speakers?
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jackfrog
this is awesome information ! thanks!
im going to get everything i need and start this audio project in my car lol
im very interested in doing some deadening to the doors, had you done that before? where the best i can get the materials i need?
Very welcome.. hope it helps!

I've never used sound deadening before (though, I really should have). Whenever I get around to replacing my stock speakers, I'm gonna try to go with the lightest I can find.. probably Second Skin Damplifier (LINK). Though there's tons of stuff you can use.. think Dynamat is the most popular, but not necessarily the best. Cascade Audio is supposed to make some pretty good stuff too (LINK).

Also, I'm gonna try to track down these OEM parts to seal off the door's access openings before laying any damping materials (LINK TO PARTS) (PARTS INSTALLED). I'm pretty sure these parts come installed with the SSS RF system, but not with the base non-SSS system we have. Pretty sure, but not 100% sure.

You might get a good enough seal just using damping mats, but having solid pieces to seal up the larger holes would probably be ideal.
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jackfrog
do you see how he sealed the speakers? that is non-hardening modelling clay? can i use something else to seal the speakers?
Ya, you could probably just cut some door damping sheets into gaskets and place one between the speaker and adapter, and another between the adapter and the door. Foam-rubber weatherstripping or something similar might also work.

You just want the internal airspace of the door to be sealed in as good as possible, so the door acts like a speaker enclosure.. and to keep any rattling and buzzing to a minimum.
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 06:54 PM
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Ya, you could probably just cut some door damping sheets into gaskets and place one between the speaker and adapter, and another between the adapter and the door. Foam-rubber weatherstripping or something similar might also work.

You just want the internal airspace of the door to be sealed in as good as possible, so the door acts like a speaker enclosure.. and to keep any rattling and buzzing to a minimum.
again thanks for great info! im gonna get everything i need to start this little project. first i need to find out how to remove the door panel without breaking those clips lol
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jackfrog
first i need to find out how to remove the door panel without breaking those clips lol
Either of these 2 threads should help..

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...im-pieces.html

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...our-evo-x.html

Or this vid on a regular Lancer..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6pdS3zYUWY

Have fun!
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 08:09 AM
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^ this is awesome! thanks!

btw it looks like the sound deadening is pretty good from factory.
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