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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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Somehow i never really trusted in the Piggy backs and so..
I like the ECU flash or just change the ECU for something better like Motec.
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Hugo@TTP
It has given plenty of info on EcuTek for sure and how older chips worked. But seeing as few people know exactly how the Z-Chip works, it would be an unfair statement to claim it doesn't offer comparable or better results.
Well here is your chance, how does it compare? Or do you think just saying that has swayed people back to the chip?
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:07 PM
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i thought this thread was about the tune vs chip etc and not about what Dynoflash can do or cant.
Go figure...
Actually the thread was apparently originally about some good results obtained by a Ecutek customer with an Ivey Tune

After the conversation took some other twists and turns I felt it was an opportune time to share some thoughts that have been brewing on my mind over the past few weeks as many customers have been asking me about piggy back chips for the Evo X

After another vendor suggested that cost, saftey and ease of purchase were important factors i felt it was a good time to discuss those also

With Ecutek, tuners pay a significant amount of money to aquire the product and purchase licenses over time and I am pleased to report that in turn Ecutek re-invests that money back into the product so they are usually the first to support new platforms and their offering ususally has additional features and benefits not offered by the others

This means that we are able to hit thr ground running with great and safe results from day one

This means there are no delays and disappointments

This means you are not a guinney pig for testing of some new idea

All of this means you can simply purchase a great product and have excelent results

Al
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Hugo@TTP
It has given plenty of info on EcuTek for sure and how older chips worked. But seeing as few people know exactly how the Z-Chip works, it would be an unfair statement to claim it doesn't offer comparable or better results.
There is no re-invention in motorsports

Most of the concenpts we are using have been already invented and used dozens of years ago if not decades ago

Tuning is not magic and its not fashion. Its actually very simple, and works on principles similar to those that have worked for many years.

There is no magic way to make power, all tuning involves the application of boost, timing and fuel and a balacing of saftey and long term reliability vs power and risk.

I refuse to allow myself to be drawn into a debate to discuss the merrits of a non existant hypothetical product. When you make your SEMA debut we will review it first hand in Las Vagas personally. Until then - Boost on !
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by STi2EvoX
What I find interesting is that all of the TTP guys talk about how much more power the Z chip makes than an ecutek tune and yet a stock X with ecutek and a stock X with the Z chip both run 12.7 1/4 miles and have the same trap speeds. I have no further comments.

I am not a fan boy of either option, however, the z-chip seems like it offers the best chances of retaining your warranty.
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Actually the thread was apparently originally about some good results obtained by a Ecutek customer with an Ivey Tune

After the conversation took some other twists and turns I felt it was an opportune time to share some thoughts that have been brewing on my mind over the past few weeks as many customers have been asking me about piggy back chips for the Evo X

After another vendor suggested that cost, saftey and ease of purchase were important factors i felt it was a good time to discuss those also

With Ecutek, tuners pay a significant amount of money to aquire the product and purchase licenses over time and I am pleased to report that in turn Ecutek re-invests that money back into the product so they are usually the first to support new platforms and their offering ususally has additional features and benefits not offered by the others

This means that we are able to hit thr ground running with great and safe results from day one

This means there are no delays and disappointments

This means you are not a guinney pig for testing of some new idea

All of this means you can simply purchase a great product and have excelent results

Al
i think that is go for all tuners. I'm sure the prices are different though.
All i'm saying is , nobody made a commercial about this thread for themself ...
i do really care about your opinion , but not a phone number. Just because some one mentioned an other tuner name, without further info. If you know what i mean.
everything else is cool though.
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
When you make your SEMA debut we will review it first hand in Las Vagas personally. Until then - Boost on !

Only a few weeks away AL..
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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This whole thread is basically funny to me. I don't need Al from Dynoflash to convince me that flashing the stock ECU is better than any piggyback or chip option. That should be common sense. Ask yourself this question. "What can a piggyback do that an ecutek tune cannot do?" The answer is absolutely nothing! And for the guy who questioned about the warranty. - Would you rather have a stock appearing ECU or a visible chip attached to your ECU? Once ECU flash comes out this will be even more irrefutable.
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Thegame
This whole thread is basically funny to me. I don't need Al from Dynoflash to convince me that flashing the stock ECU is better than any piggyback or chip option. That should be common sense. Ask yourself this question. "What can a piggyback do that an ecutek tune cannot do?" The answer is absolutely nothing! And for the guy who questioned about the warranty. - Would you rather have a stock appearing ECU or a visible chip attached to your ECU? Once ECU flash comes out this will be even more irrefutable.
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
Only a few weeks away AL..
Hopefully the OJ trial is still going on in Vegas at that time so I can attend the OJ trial and the Z chip premeier on the same day
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Hopefully the OJ trial is still going on in Vegas at that time so I can attend the OJ trial and the Z chip premeier on the same day
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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Okay, a wealth of information is in here... BUT how does the Z chip work? And if it works for the X can't it also work for the IX's and VIII? If this is a piggy back/ pnp or w/e, and if TTP ships it already configured, how is it going to turn my X into a optimal X like someone else’s if they have different parts? Is it self calibrating? That would be bad ***....

I have been following the TTP Z-Chip thread for quite some time and if its something that isn't a fault of the customers is this:
Originally Posted by Hugo@TTP
It has given plenty of info on EcuTek for sure and how older chips worked. But seeing as few people know exactly how the Z-Chip works, it would be an unfair statement to claim it doesn't offer comparable or better results.
No information has been revealed so we can only speculate. Why not give more information since it has been announced that V5 has been completed and production model was soon to be out, meaning it's stamped and done. How does it work because if we wait till SEMA, the Z-Chip will still work the same..... No?

I'm just curious.....
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Thegame
This whole thread is basically funny to me. I don't need Al from Dynoflash to convince me that flashing the stock ECU is better than any piggyback or chip option. That should be common sense. Ask yourself this question. "What can a piggyback do that an ecutek tune cannot do?" The answer is absolutely nothing! And for the guy who questioned about the warranty. - Would you rather have a stock appearing ECU or a visible chip attached to your ECU? Once ECU flash comes out this will be even more irrefutable.
Of course well informed end users will apprreciate the benefits of a reflash from past experience

Sadly, there is a ream of new faces who may not fully apprecaite all the ins and outs of the various options. I am speaking to share my opinion with those who may not be as tuning savy as yourself.

Of course, even I learn new things on this board every day - (especially when David Buschur posts - but other times also)

Al
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Blazing VIII
Well here is your chance, how does it compare? Or do you think just saying that has swayed people back to the chip?
I'm not saying to sway people's decision one way or the other, this is a competitive business. People will buy whatever they feel most comfortable with. How does it compare, well look at this quote...

Originally Posted by STi2EvoX
What I find interesting is that all of the TTP guys talk about how much more power the Z chip makes than an ecutek tune and yet a stock X with ecutek and a stock X with the Z chip both run 12.7 1/4 miles and have the same trap speeds. I have no further comments.
Based off that statement, the R&D Z-Chip is pretty comparable.

Originally Posted by DynoFlash
When you make your SEMA debut we will review it first hand in Las Vagas personally. Until then - Boost on !
This is a great statement. No bashing or saying one is better than the other. No "Hey! Look what i found! This is much better than that other company's product!"
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by STi2EvoX
What I find interesting is that all of the TTP guys talk about how much more power the Z chip makes than an ecutek tune and yet a stock X with ecutek and a stock X with the Z chip both run 12.7 1/4 miles and have the same trap speeds. I have no further comments.
the difference is that it was done in high 90 degree weather and insane humidity, and the car still managed to run that..It is insanely hot here in Orlando, at the track is even worse
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