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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hugo@TTP
Based off that statement, the R&D Z-Chip is pretty comparable.
Ok, but I would also like to change my launch control, raise my rev limit and remove the speed governor. And while we are changing that, please log it so we can make sure everything is in check. Can you do this with the chip?
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Hugo@TTP
It has given plenty of info on EcuTek for sure and how older chips worked. But seeing as few people know exactly how the Z-Chip works, it would be an unfair statement to claim it doesn't offer comparable or better results.
Hugo, hate to be the devils advocate, but we know nothing about the z chip. I dont even know if plugs in by the ecu or the obd2 port. or what it looks like, what color, how it works, how much it is, when it will be released or anything else.

We know TTP proclaimed he made something that adds 100whp/100wtq with the aid of an mbc and is calling it the z chip. we know its pnp. thats it

-Steve
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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This was my X that ran these times. The Ecutek flash has changed this car and as some of you may know i was actually considering selling it but decided to have it flashed by Sean Ivey to see how much improvement there would be and as you all can see it is a vast improvement.

As far as the Z-chip goes. It has nothing to do with my Ecutek tune i received from Sean and its results are irrelevant to my cars performance. I personally dont think it will have the gains that they are claiming but we shall see.



In the end i highly recommend SEAN IVEY as i have had a great experience with on several occasions and have had made great power with cars that he has tuned.

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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve@NrgTech
Hugo, hate to be the devils advocate, but we know nothing about the z chip. I dont even know if plugs in by the ecu or the obd2 port. or what it looks like, what color, how it works, how much it is, when it will be released or anything else.

We know TTP proclaimed he made something that adds 100whp/100wtq with the aid of an mbc and is calling it the z chip. we know its pnp. thats it

-Steve
Steve, its gona be plug and play, not splicing or cutting wires

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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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I would suggest that drag speed times and peak dyno numbers are not a wise bench mark to evaluate various tuning tools

Remember a tuning device is simply a tool which can adjust fuel injector on time and timing

I would assert than any device that can adjust a/f will reach the same peak power with a MBC at "X" boost level

What I am suggesting is that for example, a unichip, SAFC, Emanage, exede combined with a MBC can all achive the same power level with the same a/f and boost

A rational manner in which to compare and contrast tuning devices is by evaluation of the following criteria :

Tunable Parameters - what you can adjust

Resolution - how many steps of adjustment you can make and how many set points the device has

Repeatability and consistancy - how stable is the device and can results be duplicated over and over again

Design and quality of interphase - how well laid out are the end user controls

Hardware issues - ease of instalation - size, etc

Price

Reputation and track record of manufacturer

Tuning network - how many tuners in your area work with the device you have chosen and are they conformatable with using it ?

In summary - it is not wise, IMHO, to evaluate tuning products based upon drag times obtained or peak power dyno numbers. Any tuning device can make your car develop power. The best tuning devices can produce reliable power, combined with stock like function and driveability and without any undesired results.

At the end of the day the tuning tool is only as good as the man or women doing the actual tuning.
Al

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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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Interesting conversation...subscribed
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 01:59 PM
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Lets keep this one on topic, gentlemen. STI engines don't have anything to do with Evo tuning solutions and trap speeds.
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by hova00
This was my X that ran these times. The Ecutek flash has changed this car and as some of you may know i was actually considering selling it but decided to have it flashed by Sean Ivey to see how much improvement there would be and as you all can see it is a vast improvement.

As far as the Z-chip goes. It has nothing to do with my Ecutek tune i received from Sean and its results are irrelevant to my cars performance. I personally dont think it will have the gains that they are claiming but we shall see.



In the end i highly recommend SEAN IVEY as i have had a great experience with on several occasions and have had made great power with cars that he has tuned.

i knew this will come soon. But this time a i will stay away from comments about dynoflash. SO everybody else should.This is about your great run and tune.
That is why i try to ask Al to not to advertise himself in this thread.

I hope you like your X now ate least a little better. Next year i'm sure you will love it even more

the X goes for 24 HR race and Pwrc too

Not to mention the 4B11T is just with tune is a very amazing engine...
Dont you agree?
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tsitalon1
I am not a fan boy of either option, however, the z-chip seems like it offers the best chances of retaining your warranty.
easier to install (no shipping down time) same performance, maybe cheaper? (who knows..) and EASILY REMOVABLE.

with warranty concerns this product is the winner in my mind.
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Warranty? What warranty, it's a mitsubishi!

In all reality, there's always going to be a market for every form on tuning albiet reflash or piggy back, it boils down to what a particular consumer wants.

And if your worried about your warranty, don't mod period, just my .02
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I would suggest that drag speed times and peak dyno numbers are not a wise bench mark to evaluate various tuning tools

Remember a tuning device is simply a tool which can adjust fuel injector on time and timing

I would assert than any device that can adjust a/f will reach the same peak power with a MBC at "X" boost level

What I am suggesting is that for example, a unichip, SAFC, Emanage, exede combined with a MBC can all achive the same power level with the same a/f and boost

A rational manner in which to compare and contrast tuning devices is by evaluation of the following criteria :

Tunable Parameters - what you can adjust

Resolution - how many steps of adjustment you can make and how many set points the device has

Repeatability and consistancy - how stable is the device and can results be duplicated over and over again

Design and quality of interphase - how well laid out are the end user controls

Hardware issues - ease of instalation - size, etc

Price

Reputation and track record of manufacturer

Tuning network - how many tuners in your area work with the device you have chosen and are they conformatable with using it ?

In summary - it is not wise, IMHO, to evaluate tuning products based upon drag times obtained or peak power dyno numbers. Any tuning device can make your car develop power. The best tuning devices can produce reliable power, combined with stock like function and driveability and without any undesired results.

At the end of the day the tuning tool is only as good as the man or women doing the actual tuning.
Al
This is a very good post, Al!
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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I would assert than any device that can adjust a/f will reach the same peak power with a MBC at "X" boost level
Interesting.
A rational manner in which to compare and contrast tuning devices is by evaluation of the following criteria :
Resolution - how many steps of adjustment you can make and how many set points the device has
The ZChip has more resolution than EcuTeK reflash.

Repeatability and consistancy - how stable is the device and can results be duplicated over and over again
The ZChip has performed flawlessly for months now. It truly is a set it and forget it affair.

Design and quality of interphase - how well laid out are the end user controls
ZChip employs both a hardware and software interface.

Hardware issues - ease of instalation - size, etc
Its about as easy as plugging into an OBDII port.

Price
Price will be approximately half of an EcuTeK reflash.

Reputation and track record of manufacturer
Our many years of impeccable feedback ratings and service and reviews speak for themselves. Our electronics engineers on this project have the best track record for quality control within their industry.

Tuning network - how many tuners in your area work with the device you have chosen and are they conformatable with using it ?
We are "comformatable" programming the chips in a structured release method. At some point we may have a end user interface. It has not yet been set in stone..

In summary - it is not wise, IMHO, to evaluate tuning products based upon drag times obtained or peak power dyno numbers. Any tuning device can make your car develop power.
No wonder there are so many tuners.

T
he best tuning devices can produce reliable power, combined with stock like function and driveability and without any undesired results.
So stocklike that the dealer will NOT be able to tell the car has been reflashed. The checksum digits remain the same as stock and your warranty is retained with the zchip.

At the end of the day the tuning tool is only as good as the man or women doing the actual tuning.
Isn't that the truth......l

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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Isn't that the truth......8**8**888.
Thanks for making me spit my coffee out my nose... lmao
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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Keep in mind I AM interested in the zchip, but...

Instead of constantly defending the zchip and coming back with these kind of posts which contain no real info, why not just release the information that would make sense to all the people trying to understand it.

It would certainly relieve some of the tensions that are building up in the few threads that are currently covering this debate.
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