Out of mutual respect for your outsanding level of customer support and long standing status as a valued member of our community of tuners I will leave my comments at what I have made thus far and defer to your expertise on the z chip product

I am sure it is a top notch product if you are backing it

I will wait to meet you at SEMA and get all the details

Al

 

thank you noize for keeping things clean in here.. sorry to overwork you on this topic but i think the discussion is still going in the right direction.. Comparing 2 different options for the Evo X as far as tuning goes is very important to the majority of the members on here!!!

 

I am so confident in Scott and his tuning abilities that id be willing to give my car for testing before the product is released just because i know it will work flawlessly!!

 

I am sure he appreciates the support.. If and when that happens please do report back how it turns out.. Thanks!!!

 

Wow. My eyebrows went up here. That's cheap enough to use when released, and if something else comes out that is more desirable or I don't feel my needs are being met anymore (mods, need for more control, etc), I don't feel like I'm going to be out a ton of money to abandon it.

I'm smiling....

PS - there's a lot of good information in this thread if you can sift through all the self promotion and stroking of egos. Great time on the 12.7 too man. Congrats.

 

The type of engine and the octane of the fuel set the limits of what is possible moreso than the EMS. You can only throw so much timing and boost and lean air/fuel ratios at a car before the limit is reached, period. Aside from that, as AL mentioned piggybacks rely on intercepting signals before they are sent to the ecu and as the ecu switches between fuel maps this can throw the tune off making the power much less consistent and repeatable.

Making changes inside the ecu at the source is always better and more precise and there is no if's, and's, or but's about it. As I mentioned earlier, TTP claims 106 whp gains ON SCOTT'S DYNO, and ecutek averages around 50-60 on most other dynos yet they both run the same 1/4 mile times and trap speeds. Scott's dyno just reads high man, I promise you that if you put his car on any other dyno it would show the exact same whp as an ecutek tuned car and if you think differently then you are just fooling yourself.

And don't use the humidity and temp of florida as a means of proving your point when it's hot everywhere. I live in atlanta and up until a couple days ago it's been in the 90s every damn day. I'm not saying that the Z chip is a bad product, I'm just saying that it is inferior to ecutek or any reflash for that matter when it comes to precision and control and although it can make similar power gains and 1/4 mile times, no piggy back is as driveable and consistent as a reflash, nor can it change the limits of a particular type of fuel and magically make more power without knocking.

 

Great to know..

So we got a basic idea of pricing now.. I guess we just wait til Sema in 3 weeks and well get the rest of the info then.. Thanks!!

 

I would like to know why my post was edited by a moderator for expressing my experience with Al(DYNOFLASH). Every member has the right for freedom of speech which are constitution upholds but not on EVOM.

MIKE@AWDMOTORSPORTS takes my post and makes another one to try and bash another members product before it is even released and that is O.K.

 

Easy bro, I was trying to help the community to see some results of the Ecutek Flash in a section better suited for discussion of such products.. The drag racing section is not frequented by as many people.. Sorry if it appears as a promotion but it was more or less to show how amazing just a tune is on an EVO X... Not to bash another product.. The other product shows comparable trap speeds and is supposed to 50% less $$$.. No bashing there..

 

I just want to say many congrats to Sean. He is a great guy and always contributes in a positive way. As far as the Z-chip, not much to say, it is still not available and no one can say anything about it first hand. I'll stick with reflashes any day over a piggy back also.

 

You are absolutely correct in your observation hova00 and don't think that the mods don't see exactly what you are seeing. A short review of his post history will show you that his post history will demostrate his intention is to try and detract attention from the zchip thread. What he fails to realize is that it only attracts more attention to the product and we have taken 22 additional pre-orders today from the drama he has created amongst real professional tuners ivey, dynoflash and ttp. The three of us however will remain respectful tuning associates within the same field.

 

Well then thank me for the 22 pre-orders..

Also, why are you constantly in my thread diverting attention away from the Fantastic results with the Ecutek tune?? Relax, you have 100's of preorders for the Z-chip.. I am sure youll do just fine with sales.. There is no reason to panic if someone posts results from a competing tuning software that is comparable to the z-chips performance..

 

Congrats to our great friends at Iveytune.com

Anyone visiting his facility is in great hands.

Sorry to Hova00 for the hijacking of his accomplishments by another vendor.

Anytime you have a vendor who is neither the tuner, the mechanic or the driver posting a thread on the behalf of your car and another sponsor vendor's tuning which they have nothing to do with, you have to ask yourself why?

Keep up the good work bro.

 

Thanks Al for chiming in also on the X's ecu. You are a wealth of information. All my dynoflash tuned cars performed flawlessly. Anytime Al speaks, I listen

 

Wrong. This is not the US Constitution. This is a website that you agreed to follow the rules to when you signed up. One of those rules is to keep threads on topic. Tuning an STI with an aftermarket turbo has zip to do with tuning a stock X. I could have deleted your entire post, but instead I took out the off topic content + blame game that has nothing to do with the case at hand. The sole purpose of that part of your post was to strike at Dynoflash.

We don't have a Subaru section here, but if you really feel the need to tell your story on these forums, I recommend you use the Service, Parts, and Tuning Review forum here: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/fo...ysprune=&f=176

I don't handle that section, and the local moderator can decide if your post has merit to EvoM or not. As far as this thread goes, it certainly does not, so I wouldn't recommend posting it again.