you quoted this guy : Originally Posted by ibarkovic View Post
xtreme-boost , ran 11 secs on a stock turbo-non modified- and stock tune, so go figure haha

Fact : Please do NOT speak on my behalf when you have no actual facts on MY car !!!! My car is ONLY missing the rear crash bar, for you to say that we're missing 360lbs is really just plain stupid . If you would like to "call me out" on this forum please I beg of you to do so ! Every fact I have stated on my car are 100% correct and true !! Not one thing has been hidden not one thing has been made to look like something else . The fact is that because of my advance knowlege on the Evo X I have been able to take my knowlege and make the parts according to the car and its needs . Just think about that VERY carefully , I have just done bolt-on parts with zero biggie back , no chip , no spray nothing and yet I have done something that for months not one other person has been able to do with or without a tune ; now just think of how well my car will run once its actually tuned .

Once again , please call me out on that 360lbs missing from my car but please lets make a public bet on that . I Here by bet everything I own on that being complete and total bullsh_t on your part . Now insert your bet here ___________ !!!!

I will no longer stand for ANY of your BS man , so lets do this if its what you'd like


Best Regards

Frank

 

Y'all need to relax in this thread....... Noize and I are reviewing this on a daily basis. Vendors and members are held to the same standard: I court no favorites. Please conduct yourselves accordingly. Thanks.

SASD209

 

 

Last time I'm going to say it.......watch it guys. I'm a reasonable fella, but I've banned members and vendors before: nobody pays my bills here, I answer to the owners who happen to like me.

 

I will be brief and civil per mods request. But I should be able to defend your accustations. You just stated above you only ask the facts be outlined in order to be fair. The facts are you were unable to get my car into the 10's. You were also unwilling to move forward and remedy any issues. Where did you get 397 BTW? Power is higher than that. So please stop interjecting your one sided and wrong info about me every chance you get. This thread is about X ecus and not how you feel about me. I for one am very interested in a X and its tuning potential outcome. I've been thinking of buying one for a daily driver.

 

This is really impressive, great job guys

 

i appreciate this. i guess i was a bit confused and disappointed when noize deleted one of my posts in the TTP engineering thread recently where i was trying to guess the price of the "zchip" based on what i knew about it and other solutions and got into discussion with someone who thinks that zchip is better than ecutek tune, this seems to be the same type scenario, thats all

 

Exactly, you had nothing to do with his current cars set up or accomplishments. That is good news for him whether he knows it or not.

Have you had any luck with the X's? How is the Ecutek tuning with them going? You have been pretty quiet about them but i guess that is because the X that you guys have still doesnt have a motor.

it will take you a while to figure out the logic behind tuning something that is a little closer to the complexity of a Subaru ECU but iam pretty sure that you will eventually figure some of it out. Thank god you arent making claims about power that isnt backed up. Hey i will have to keep an eye out for you when the DYNOFLASH/ICS EVO X gets back on the road with its new motor.

I have to agree with you though that a ECUTEK is far superior to any piggyback that iam familiar with.

 

he is not promoting himself but simply stating opinion about flashing which is what ECUtek software does. If you wanna talk chip or Zchip go to the other thread that TTP started.

Noize erased my posts in the TTP thread because i merely said a few things about flashing where the thread is about zchip, go figure

Thanks AL

Thanks Al.

 

The only major flaw I see in this is the MBC (which is a must according to TTP). Yes, a bone stock car with just this piggyback would be very easy to convert to "dealer bone stock", if you will. You just unplug it. BUT what about the MBC? Obviously the dealer isn't just looking to see if the car was tuned.

So for a huge hypothetical IF...

IF something were to happen to your car while running the z-chip and MBC, will you remember how the stock boost controller was hooked up EXACTLY so that there are no traces what-so-ever of the MBC?

Running a MBC will void your warranty very fast. Maybe if the z-chip could control boost, there wouldn't be this hypothetical. A feature for future models maybe??

 

Posting complaints about me soft deleting your post twice in one thread is overkill, and you need to get over yourself post haste.

That's TTP's advertising thread for their Z chip, and they are a legitimate vendor here. If you want to talk about reflashes vs. piggybacks, this is the place, not their technical thread.

Moderating is largely a thankless job. You have no idea how many reported posts, PMs, and IMs I get from people that are unhappy because things aren't going their way. Its like being in the center of a circle where opposite forces who have different vantage points of things try to pull you to the outside and rip you from where you are supposed to be. But correct and fair moderating is blazing right a trail up the center of the path of neutrality, and its really a _ton_ of work. You can't drive on emotion at all, so you have to try to serve everyone by operating on logic and facts. Just policing a thread like this takes way more time out of the staff's life than it is worth.

But there are people on both sides with strong and valid points. In truth, there are great cases for each product, and I do not think one dominates the other convincingly. As with any vendor/tuner, the wise thing for the consumer to do is to establish a relationship with someone you trust that you believe does good work. Though often competitive (hey, its captialism!), I do believe we have some truly awesome vendors here with great products and services. Read, weed out, sift through, learn, and go with the one that is the best for you.

 

Havin an issue with someone and calling them "*******", "asshat", "asstard", or ***-whatever is childish and won't get you a warning in these forums. It will get you a vendor on vendor infraction and a temp ban. Act like adults, please. Ye have been warned.

Off topic crap, excess flaming, and regurgitations removed.

 

Just to add to what Noize has already said, a lot of us reading these posts are potential customers. While we are using this thread to gain information about the options available to us, we are also gauging professionalism and trustworthiness of the vendors who are taking part in the discussion. Many of us are no where near the tuning / retail shops you own and operate, and our orders would be online or by phone. This forum is the only way we can form an opinion of the way we believe you conduct business.

Just something to think about when you type things in the box with your website and business name attached to the message.

 

I agree..

I apologize if at any point i got off topic but hey were all human.. Sometimes you speak before you think and in this case sometimes i type before i think..

 

noize i am not complaining simply stating my opinion and point of view as you just did below about me. You dont know me so telling me to get over myself is a big assumption on your part, i assume you mean that i am full of myself. Opinionated yes, but so are you,..not sure how me stating a fact that you deleted a post which i thought was totally harmless proves your point there, but whatever.

if you compare TTP thread title and this thread title, they are exactly along the same lines, each one was started by a vendor, each one addresses a particular type of tuning tool, so please tell me how does it make sense to talk about any tuning method in here and not in the TTP thread.

i am not picking a fight with you and i do appreciate the time you spend moderating, so thank you !!!