Honestly where did you hear that the SST can not be opened whatsoever? I highly doubt the SST can not be opened.

 

The sst transmission can be opened, however mitsubishi has stated if there are any failures to ship it to them so thay can determine the problem. It was like that with the vw trans also when they first came out. Mitsubishi just wants to find out were the weaknesses are so they can determine if it was abuse that caused the failure or if it was a defect.

 

See now i remember that being stated. But i do not remember seeing anywhere that you have to basically cut the thing open like an egg to get inside.

 

X MR owner here.

I absolutely adore my MR. I didn't think that I'd ever buy one of those "flappy-paddle" transmissions, but the MR changed my mind after one test drive. It's an "automatic" when you want it to be, and a true manual when you need it to be, that always shifts perfectly and quickly.

The software is what makes these transmissions either good (SST in X MR) or bad (VW/Audi DSG), and Mitsubishi just _nailed_ the software on the SST.

Funny thing is, even though I've driven manual transmissions all of my life, I rarely put my SST into manual mode. All of the magazine reviews are correct: in the automatic shifting mode, especially in Sport or S-Sport mode, the transmission is _always_ in the right gear for the situation. There's really no reason to shift for yourself, nor do you really want to. Throttle blips on downshifts, perfect upshifts without loss of power... it's wonderful.

I don't plan on modding, as the stock power is just fine for me.

I can't wait to take it on the track--I'm waiting for the warranty to expire first, though. (I still have my M3 track car) As for the overheating of the SST on track--there's a few fixes out there, just need to increase airflow cooling to the SST radiator with a fan.

--michael

 

Slightly exaggerated as there is not a 10K difference between the two models.

Base US MSRP for the GSR is 33,990; for the MR it is $38,290 so a difference of $4300. Now if the GSR is optioned to include the SSS package whcih is standard on hte MR model, then the price difference falls to only $2300.

 

If I was buying an EVO X, it would be an MR.

Reason being....a 350 hp limit is PLENTY enough for me. Suspension is where it's at for me. And the SST tranny is pretty cool in my opinion.

AST-USA/Vorshlag is a tuning shop that has an MR. They did some Cobb bolt-ons but really they do suspension....which sadly isn't what interests most people. But to me that's a LOT more exciting. Different strokes I guess. They track the car extensively and have fixed the overheating problems pretty easily.

- Andrew

 

Put down the crack pipe before you post. You are assigning *your* limitations to the rest of us. Please stop doing that.

The SST is an assembly of parts with cases bolted together and can easily be dis-assembled. Just because Mitsu doesn't sell parts, gaskets, filters, clutches, etc. for it does not mean it cannot be serviced. If you'd ever actually looked at one you would see the bolts holding the case halves together and easily see where the mating faces are. With no welds how could it possibly be sealed?

Note Mitsu doesn't sell components for the inside of the engine ECU, the radio or NAV system, individual wires from assorted harnesses, etc. - they service those items as assemblies only. I suspect that Mitsu doesn't sell replacement batteries for the TPMS sensors or seal kits for Brembo calipers either. Doesn't mean they can't be serviced.

 

Me too!

 

If the GTR came with a 6sp manual as well as their twin clutch, I'm sure it would be in the same boat as the X with all the tuners only working on the standard tranny version. Blitz has already converted their GTR to a standard 6sp IIRC.

There's nothing "wrong" with the MR. It just has a different target market and I think it was brilliant of Mitsubishi to offer 2 tranny types. Although a minority, there are people out there who would be perfectly satisfied with a 350AWHP daily driver that offers all the handling prowess of the Evo platform as well as the comfort and convenience of the SST for daily driving.

I'm in that category, that's why I bought the MR over the GSR.

But then I also love manual shifting that's why I have my MR 2 and my R6 but they are not my daily drivers.

 

I'll throw in my .02 as a new MR owner (less than 2 weeks). I'm currently sporting the 08 MR, with an 08 Audi TT MKII in the garage next to it. The TT is the DSG, so I'm going from flappy paddle to flappy paddle.

I gotta say, I LOVE the SST compared to DSG. The SST responds immediately every time, and I can even force it through redline stock if I choose. With my DSG TT, It would shift before redline until it had APR software put onto it.

The DSG is still uncharted waters for power, with people pushing well over 5-600whp with only recommendations to replace the DSG due to "possible failures". I'm currently running a Stage II on my DSG (Stage II Ecu, Test pipe software, Full 3" exhaust, Power pulley, Neuspeed air intake, BSH Stage II Catch can, 100-octane fuel mapping, Upgraded diverter valve). The TT will blast my MR without a thought (still flappy paddle!) and manages to spank damn near anything on the road. Again, DSG here, no failures (except a coilpack at 25k..grr)

As for the MR, I'm already in the pipelines for a test pipe, catback, AEM C.A.I already on, custom tune at the local shop (SCR Performance), and upper intercooler pipes. I'm not sure where I'll take the MR after that, but if time, money, and patience stick around I may be posting up build threads in the future!

I <3 me some flappy paddles.

 

Sorry guys, I could have sworn I read that somewhere, I cannot find it now of-course. I guess this is how rumors begin!! sorry for that. But everything else I stated is true, how do I know this, I checked.

 

Gee man, take it easy, I just read your post, but I already fessed up. Sorry again guys.

 

CatalystGod - Here's a thread for you to check out. Not trying to be a dick, just letting ya know what's out there:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/6414883-post17.html

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...de-clutch.html

 

Run circles around your GSR at the track? Lol, I don't think so. No offense, but that was a ridiculous comment. In most tests, the GSR is faster around the track than the MR, only losing on tracks that require a lot of shifting, where the speed of the SST makes up for it's many shortcomings. The MR is heavier, puts less power to the ground, is softer sprung, can't handle power upgrades like the GSR, and has overheating issues from hard driving at STOCK power levels. That's a bastardized evo IMO, and is the main reason that GSRs have sold reasonably well and why MRs have sold like crap. I think that mitsu shouls have made the X in one trim level, and just made the tranny an option just like they do in japan. This is what porsche, ferrari, and many others have been doing for years and mitsu should've followed suit.

 

I have had my EVO X MR for about 9 months. It was stock for about 60 days. I am pushing 301whp/318wtq and have had absolutely no issues. I am ready to up the power to the next level with Cams and Boost pill but am still not sure if I should without upgraded SST internals. If someone released a clutch kit for the EVO X MR I would buy in a heart beat.

The EVO X MR is an absolutely wonderful car, and in my opinion can be just as great as a GSR. The biggest problem is the GSR has the automatic backing of the entire aftermarket industry, where as the MR has to slowly build up a group of companies willing to cater to it. Its going to take time. No other way around it. Not many shops are willing to play R&D with a 7-9k tranny. Hopefully some of the big ones will soon or maybe an upstart shop will show them up.

Brandon