EVOX sleeved block
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[QUOTE=Mike@AwdMotorsports;6098531]Yeah when the sleeves warp and / or shift youll see the problem.. I am not saying its a problem with darton themselves..I am saying its a problem with making big power which is not a problem on a cast iron block..[/QUOTE/]
You sound like one of my ASE instructors.....lol. Well put....
You sound like one of my ASE instructors.....lol. Well put....
Btw i am not saying at 500 or 600hp they might not be superior to cast.. Who knows we might see 9 sec stock block evo X.. Push 1000-1400hp thru one and then come see me.. No B or K series has made 4g63 type power and lived to make it down the track like Rao and Shep..
Last edited by AWD Motorsports; Sep 9, 2008 at 07:31 PM.
Really?? not what i hear from guys running 9 second cars on a b series while i was at nopi this season.. No way anyone can convince me that for a drag race platform, open deck aluminum is superior to solid deck cast iron sorry..
Btw i am not saying at 500 or 600hp they might not be superior to cast.. Who knows we might see 9 sec stock block evo X.. Push 1000-1400hp thru one and then come see me.. No B or K series has made 4g63 type power and lived to make it down the track like Rao and Shep..
Btw i am not saying at 500 or 600hp they might not be superior to cast.. Who knows we might see 9 sec stock block evo X.. Push 1000-1400hp thru one and then come see me.. No B or K series has made 4g63 type power and lived to make it down the track like Rao and Shep..
The money and time you put in the Evo , i guess you would be better off with some domestic.
The drag is not my passion , that is why i have an Evo.
It is like if i like autox and i'm on the mustang forum with the KR 500
Nice Nice but what for?
So i really dont care the engine can't hold 1000 whp at all
sorry 
the evo was never designed and build for drag race. That is a huge miss handling the car.
The money and time you put in the Evo , i guess you would be better off with some domestic.
The drag is not my passion , that is why i have an Evo.
It is like if i like autox and i'm on the mustang forum with the KR 500
Nice Nice but what for?
So i really dont care the engine can't hold 1000 whp at all sorry
The money and time you put in the Evo , i guess you would be better off with some domestic.
The drag is not my passion , that is why i have an Evo.
It is like if i like autox and i'm on the mustang forum with the KR 500
Nice Nice but what for?
So i really dont care the engine can't hold 1000 whp at all
sorry 
the evo was never designed and build for drag race. That is a huge miss handling the car.
The money and time you put in the Evo , i guess you would be better off with some domestic.
The drag is not my passion , that is why i have an Evo.
It is like if i like autox and i'm on the mustang forum with the KR 500
Nice Nice but what for?
So i really dont care the engine can't hold 1000 whp at all sorry
The money and time you put in the Evo , i guess you would be better off with some domestic.
The drag is not my passion , that is why i have an Evo.
It is like if i like autox and i'm on the mustang forum with the KR 500
Nice Nice but what for?
So i really dont care the engine can't hold 1000 whp at all
sorry the evo was never designed and build for drag race. That is a huge miss handling the car.
The money and time you put in the Evo , i guess you would be better off with some domestic.
The drag is not my passion , that is why i have an Evo.
It is like if i like autox and i'm on the mustang forum with the KR 500
Nice Nice but what for?
So i really dont care the engine can't hold 1000 whp at all sorry
The money and time you put in the Evo , i guess you would be better off with some domestic.
The drag is not my passion , that is why i have an Evo.
It is like if i like autox and i'm on the mustang forum with the KR 500
Nice Nice but what for?
So i really dont care the engine can't hold 1000 whp at all
sorry BTW.. brent rao's eclipse is basically a domestic with a 4g63 motor.. you think he will be switching to a 4b11 in this lifetime.. i doubt it..
Yeah and you can be like the other 1344558586976 people with domestics.. some people love their evo and love to drag race and thats why we want 1000hp and a motor that can handle it.. to each its own.. Some people dont just race at the track if you follow me..
BTW.. brent rao's eclipse is basically a domestic with a 4g63 motor.. you think he will be switching to a 4b11 in this lifetime.. i doubt it..
BTW.. brent rao's eclipse is basically a domestic with a 4g63 motor.. you think he will be switching to a 4b11 in this lifetime.. i doubt it..
Im not close minded.. I am realistic.. my $36k car isnt ready to have the motor out yet anyway and i am not looking forward to dealing with aluminum motor problems.. The fastest cars in the world are still running on old proven technology.. call me old fashioned..
Yeah and you can be like the other 1344558586976 people with domestics.. some people love their evo and love to drag race and thats why we want 1000hp and a motor that can handle it.. to each its own.. Some people dont just race at the track if you follow me..
BTW.. brent rao's eclipse is basically a domestic with a 4g63 motor.. you think he will be switching to a 4b11 in this lifetime.. i doubt it..
BTW.. brent rao's eclipse is basically a domestic with a 4g63 motor.. you think he will be switching to a 4b11 in this lifetime.. i doubt it..
I would call it marketing. It was hard to sell Mitsu in the USA after Pearl Harbor back then ...
People can race what ever they want. They even race school buses..
that is doesn't mean the car was engineered for that. So you cant except things from it, as a factory car or engine to do that. The purpose what they build for the EVo and designed it, so far it is absolutely does her job.
Look up those track day and facts what they doing after 7 months...
Some track even broke record where the previous version runned years and years , and couldn't do it.
I dont think you actually need more power then 600 whp at all. If the sleeve makes it more reliable that is great.
But when you get there you need to look into weight savings etc , to make more performance, not just gaining whp.
If the X could broke track record with less then 400 whp , just think about it what they will do with 5-600 whp...
No need to have 1000 whp in the Evo.
And if you need that , then that evo will never be a DD car with great reability. Just like with the 4G63. So why is so important ?
What is really a big difference here? Those 1000 whp 4G63 evos are closely monitored - maintenanced etc, track cars with a team behind them...And rebuild engines anyway.
Last edited by Robevo RS; Sep 9, 2008 at 08:09 PM.
i hope you don't refer the 4G63 as a domestic engine...That would be an insult for that engine for sure.
People can race what ever they want. They even race school buses..
that is doesn't mean the car was engineered for that. So you cant except things from it, as a factory car or engine to do that. The purpose what they build for the EVo and designed it, so far it is absolutely does her job.
Look up those track day and facts what they doing after 7 months...
Some track even broke record where the previous version runned years and years , and couldn't do it.
If the sleeve makes it more reliable its fine. But i dont think you actually need more power then 600 whp at all. If the sleeve makes it more reliable that is great.
But when you get there you need to look into weight savings etc , to make more performance. If the X could broke track record with less then 400 whp , just think about it what they will do with 5-600 whp...
No need to have 1000 whp in the Evo.
And if you need that , then that evo will never be a DD car with great reability. Just like with the 4G63. So why is so important ?
What is really a big difference here? Those 1000 whp 4G63 evos are closely monitored - maintenanced etc, track cars with a team behind them...
People can race what ever they want. They even race school buses..
that is doesn't mean the car was engineered for that. So you cant except things from it, as a factory car or engine to do that. The purpose what they build for the EVo and designed it, so far it is absolutely does her job.
Look up those track day and facts what they doing after 7 months...
Some track even broke record where the previous version runned years and years , and couldn't do it.
If the sleeve makes it more reliable its fine. But i dont think you actually need more power then 600 whp at all. If the sleeve makes it more reliable that is great.
But when you get there you need to look into weight savings etc , to make more performance. If the X could broke track record with less then 400 whp , just think about it what they will do with 5-600 whp...
No need to have 1000 whp in the Evo.
And if you need that , then that evo will never be a DD car with great reability. Just like with the 4G63. So why is so important ?
What is really a big difference here? Those 1000 whp 4G63 evos are closely monitored - maintenanced etc, track cars with a team behind them...
everything you are saying is falling on deaf ears as i know EXACTLY what the evo was designed for and you dont have to tell me about reliability as i build these cars daily.. However you cant talk me out of why i should or should not drag race it.. I love the car and love drag racing and i will use an evo as the platform for as long as i can finacially handle using a car that breaks alot of parts.. pretty simple.