that is a fair comment . And with that i do agree with you.
Fact i dont understand people who spend money to get a X for drag racing now.
I do understand like you, and many people like the drag racing, It is so American , so its oke. But why the X?

Why spend 30K + for something , what is never be a good drag race car. At least a near future. Not to mention the aviability the after market parts. Even if you find something basically none of them is proven yet really.

So yes the 4G63 is better for many perspective. And bold thing to say the 4B11 T is better. But to say is not as good, just as bold, since we dont know nothing yet .
Will be many dead ends and success, so i would wait at least a year to say this or that is better. Right now we better if just observing yet, and we not going to look dummy a year later , with not so bright opinions. / and this specially for me , who cant shot his mouth /

And even then we will compere the 16 years old engine vs the 1 year old. You know how much difference is that when you tune and build an engine.

But ,we can say bravely today , the 4B11 T is moving ahead much better then a 4G63T did 16 years ago. And that is a fact, what nobody can deny

 

i was going to say, same reason why i say 4G63 has to come back

 

Not to mention that regardless of peak power on blocks, the 4G63 needs to be upgraded at around the 500 hp mark. The X seems to be doing quite well up to this mark and may even surpass the 4G63 as far as stock limitations. I've said it before, if you want maximum HP (which is probably 1% of the market), a 2JZ, 4G63, or an RB will be the best option for import motors. How many of us will honestly ever have over 600 hp at the absolute most? Who cares?

 

99% of Evo owners aren't going to pushing the engine hard enough to have "aluminum motor problems" so why is this such a big issue for you?

Not to mention no one has experienced these problems yet....so how exactly is it a problem??

 

yeah you're right, Mitsu screwed up big time... ****! They made a lighter, cleaner, more efficient, and more powerful motor... Worst move they could've made. Maybe Mitsu will bring back the 4G63 because the 4B11 has to be sleeved before it can take 1200 hp. That would be a great move for the company!

 

Well i am the 1% right?? you guys blow any comment so out of proportion.. I never said the motor is going to be useless and we should abandon it and go back to 4g63 or lets make a mount kit and swap in an old motor.. I simply stated that for big HP i would much rather have a 4g63 and peace of mind over a the weight savings of an aluminum motor.. Read all of what i say not just what you want to see,,,

 

Nobody is saying mitsu made a bad decision as a company.. However in the High Performance industry a lot of us are in we would have much rather see a proven reliable solid deck motor for some EXTRA piece of mind.. Lets face it, the EVOX is way overweight compared to the IX so maybe they could have reduced some weight elsewhere rather than the heart of the car..

 

i dont think that it really matters, people make different things because people are different and want to be unique. not everyone is going to want to have the same engine as everyone else so if your willing to spend all that money on an engine go ahead (our economy needs it anyways)

 

Of course not everyone is going to want the same engine.. Some might want a K series Honda in the EVO X.. Doesnt mean its the right thing to do..

 

I know what you're saying, Mike. And I do agree with you. Your first comment was just worded in a controversial manner. You said you had "no faith in the new 4B11." What you meant to say was, "This is one of the reasons why I feel that the 4G63 is superior to the 4B11 for making big power." I don't think this thread would've blown up if you said it like that.

 

I reworded it as you mentioned.. Maybe that will settle guys down.. I understand what your saying.. ThankS!!

 

they did reduced the weight . But for able to sell, wich is quiet important, if you are a manufacturer/ need to pass a safety standards...

Plus, the 18 inch spare tire weights more , the 18 inch rims and tires weights more, the lot bigger brakes weights more , i know they shouldn't do that to get a those.

For me just a downpipe back exhaust and rims + tires coilovers , my car did go down /no rear seats but full tank of gas/ 3350lbs.
and everything else is in the car , even the floor mats, and CD's....
And i'm not even start gutting it.

I'm sure the X is damn heavy My VIII SSL was a lot lighter but more power full....

So far i didn't hear any complain about this engine from tuners and owners.... But i heard many complains from others
So i'm preatty sure the X will be just fine.