penthouse

ttp engineering just tuned a customer car with ETS 35r kit made 528 whp pump gas, no problem yet. ETS made 600whp evo x with customer car too i think.
Most of ETS turbo car are bone stock engine.

mlomker

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It's kind of like the guys who post and ask if they can replace just the clutch disc. Sure you can, but the labor is $600 anyway. If I have the head off (for the cam/springs/studs) and the oil pan off for rod bolts then there ain't much holding the rods and pistons in at that point.

RB185AFM

Good info

EvoX6436

i Think AMS-NOS Evo is 750 WHP now
so its new car
so maybe in future it will become out of 1000 HP

DRAG

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Pretty sure you nailed it right on the head with "yet" We know people are making the power, and some of these good tuners are going to have them last quite a while with different people's driving styles. I'm sure someone can go throw 750+ hp at the thing for one dyno pull then park it in the garage for the next 8 months and every nut swinger on the internet will think it has held 750 all year

It is just a matter of time, and anyone making big power AND racing their car is on borrowed time. People also need to consider that there are people trying to run businesses here...and selling **** is priority #1. Vendors aren't going to dash over to the computer to brag about how they just tossed a motor....lets be realistic here. ETS was nice enough to share their experiences when theirs let go, but don't give everyone else that same credit.

BMcNasty

Oh boy I haven't laughed that hard in a while ... ... No the 4B11 cannot handle 750WHP (close to 900 at the crank) stock ... lol nope, never has, never will ...

Sorry, was searching on some other random stuff and came across this .. lol too funny.

Robevo RS

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neither the 4G63 if you actually utilize that power...

The 4G63 is stronger in stock form, mainly is because the connecting rods are stronger then a 4B11T have.
But a 4B11T is superior in any other segment, period.

So in my opinion the 4B11T can handle less hp because the weaker connecting rods, but neither engine can handle the abuse of 750 hp in stock form. For running around with a dynosheet to show it everyone, that both can handle.

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BMcNasty

Ostar Motorsports did it in 2012 and also ran a 9.28@154

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzR2fG-cDxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inHD2ND32gg

EVO-Or-Bust

Interesting to read. looking at both and was curious what the 4b11s are doing now that they have had time to really show themselves.

it_manager

First of all I would say not a power killing OEM internals, but RPM and/or torque.
Weakest point of 4B11 are Rod bolts. If you will change it to ARP and will not move RPM limit higher, than stock - 4B11 will handle up to 500-550 awhp.

Viegasjuice

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THIS. You people are funny. 4g63 cant hold that kind of power and actually USE that power on stok blocks either. There are people with 600+whp evo X's on stock block. Several out of my local shop and still run after 2 years. What more do you want from a stock block 2 liter? Built 4b11's are also more efficient engines that built 4g63's.