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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 08:24 PM
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E85 Fuel System HELP!

What injectors to go with?
What fuel pump/filter/kit do I need to go with?


Hey guys, I tried searching but did not come up with anything useful in my opinion. I just purchased a ETS HTA 3582 twin scroll turbo kit and I am looking to run E85. My questions are what am I going to need in the way of my fuel system. I found the E85 conversion thread and know that I am going to need a BlaqOps kit. But, which one do I need. My car is bone stock with the exception of a walbro 255 right now but my future mods are:

Agency Power or ETS test pipe
Agency Power or ETS Cat back exhaust
ETS FMIC
Kelford 214B cams
Perrin 3 port boost solenoid
(PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I AM MISSING ANYTHING OR IF ANYONE HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS)


I know I need BIG injectors but DW only makes em up to 1000cc right now. Are there any bigger injectors out there that are good and will I need a new fuel rail to run them or are they direct replacement?

Any info is greatly appreciated....Thanks in advance guys!!
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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I was considering the Fuel Injector Clinic Bluemax 1250-1650cc injectors, includes fuel rail spacers and pigtail adapter, $50 extra for plug and play adapters. I'm pretty sure these don't need anything else to work, but you may want to ask just in case. I do like the stock fitment drop in Deatschwerks 1000cc injectors but they need to start making some larger sizes.

Likely go with a Buschur or BlaqOps double pumper fuel setup and you could get a Boomba fuel rail if you are running high boost and big numbers with that turbo.

Injector Sizing Guide:
Based on E85 needing 35% more fueling at 90% injector duty cycles.

Code:
Crank HP --- 93 Oct ---- E85 -
-- 400 ----- 583 cc --- 787 cc
-- 450 ----- 657 cc --- 887 cc
-- 500 ----- 730 cc --- 985 cc
-- 550 ----- 803 cc --- 1084 cc
-- 600 ----- 876 cc --- 1182 cc
-- 650 ----- 949 cc --- 1281 cc
-- 700 ----- 1022 cc -- 1379 cc
-- 750 ----- 1095 cc -- 1478 cc
-- 800 ----- 1168 cc -- 1576 cc
I would probably go with 1550-1650cc injectors with that turbo setup on E85.
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 08:28 AM
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I would probably go with 1550-1650cc injectors with that turbo setup on E85.
Seems like the only way to go right now unless you want to shell out for the overkill ID2200's.
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BalistiK_EvoIX
What injectors to go with?
What fuel pump/filter/kit do I need to go with?


Hey guys, I tried searching but did not come up with anything useful in my opinion. I just purchased a ETS HTA 3582 twin scroll turbo kit and I am looking to run E85. My questions are what am I going to need in the way of my fuel system. I found the E85 conversion thread and know that I am going to need a BlaqOps kit. But, which one do I need. My car is bone stock with the exception of a walbro 255 right now but my future mods are:

Agency Power or ETS test pipe
Agency Power or ETS Cat back exhaust
ETS FMIC
Kelford 214B cams
Perrin 3 port boost solenoid
(PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I AM MISSING ANYTHING OR IF ANYONE HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS)


I know I need BIG injectors but DW only makes em up to 1000cc right now. Are there any bigger injectors out there that are good and will I need a new fuel rail to run them or are they direct replacement?

Any info is greatly appreciated....Thanks in advance guys!!
1600cc or 2000cc inj. , double pumper, or add an inline pump. keep the power under 550whp with stock block, u will be fine. Look like a nice setup u got there brother.
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 08:45 AM
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by the way, stock rail and fpr are fine too. Good luck man.
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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thanks for all the help guys...have any of you had experience with the blumax fuel injectors I saw em on MAP but I have not heard a single thing on them....
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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heard good things about bluemax.
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 11:29 AM
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Look into ID2000 injectors...

Buschur went from 1650cc FIC's to ID2000 with excellent results for his E85 setup.

There is a great review done by Dave Buschur himself on here somewhere.

We are also using the ID2000's on our car running E85 this year.

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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Touge Factory
Look into ID2000 injectors...

Buschur went from 1650cc FIC's to ID2000 with excellent results for his E85 setup.

There is a great review done by Dave Buschur himself on here somewhere.

We are also using the ID2000's on our car running E85 this year.

this sound like a good inj. but iam not sure it will works with stock ecu flashing. They might be too big for stock ecu. The op is probably on stock ecu flashing right now.
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 11:40 AM
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Our 2400cc HIAG injectors will support up to 1200whp and are direct bolt on for Evo X. They do not require wiring harnesses adapters etc or injector drivers and are on sale right now.

You can install an inline pump along with walbro and UR type fit kit for evo X or better yet, we have the new FullBlown twin pump kits in stock for Evo X to supply 800whp+ on E85.



Originally Posted by BalistiK_EvoIX
What injectors to go with?
What fuel pump/filter/kit do I need to go with?


Hey guys, I tried searching but did not come up with anything useful in my opinion. I just purchased a ETS HTA 3582 twin scroll turbo kit and I am looking to run E85. My questions are what am I going to need in the way of my fuel system. I found the E85 conversion thread and know that I am going to need a BlaqOps kit. But, which one do I need. My car is bone stock with the exception of a walbro 255 right now but my future mods are:

Agency Power or ETS test pipe
Agency Power or ETS Cat back exhaust
ETS FMIC
Kelford 214B cams
Perrin 3 port boost solenoid
(PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I AM MISSING ANYTHING OR IF ANYONE HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS)


I know I need BIG injectors but DW only makes em up to 1000cc right now. Are there any bigger injectors out there that are good and will I need a new fuel rail to run them or are they direct replacement?

Any info is greatly appreciated....Thanks in advance guys!!
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
FullBlown twin pump kits in stock for Evo X to supply 800whp+ on E85.
Is it a kit or just their hanger? I'd be interested in the details if you have a kit.
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BalistiK_EvoIX
What injectors to go with?
What fuel pump/filter/kit do I need to go with?


Hey guys, I tried searching but did not come up with anything useful in my opinion. I just purchased a ETS HTA 3582 twin scroll turbo kit and I am looking to run E85. My questions are what am I going to need in the way of my fuel system. I found the E85 conversion thread and know that I am going to need a BlaqOps kit. But, which one do I need. My car is bone stock with the exception of a walbro 255 right now but my future mods are:

Agency Power or ETS test pipe
Agency Power or ETS Cat back exhaust
ETS FMIC
Kelford 214B cams
Perrin 3 port boost solenoid
(PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I AM MISSING ANYTHING OR IF ANYONE HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS)


I know I need BIG injectors but DW only makes em up to 1000cc right now. Are there any bigger injectors out there that are good and will I need a new fuel rail to run them or are they direct replacement?

Any info is greatly appreciated....Thanks in advance guys!!
BlaqOps has a double pump kit that is 100% E85 safe. Very well made and has a progressive controller that can be configured based on MAF or boost.
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mlomker
Is it a kit or just their hanger? I'd be interested in the details if you have a kit.
It is a kit for use with stock lines.
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 09:28 PM
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I have the Blaqops DP running E85. It works great and the second pump only runs when it needs to.
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