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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 02:48 PM
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if u want quality and perfect welds go hks there not all about power but balance but on the other hand am a ams guy
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dee242
if u want quality and perfect welds go hks there not all about power but balance but on the other hand am a ams guy
Really? HKS quality is **** on a stick compared to AMS. There type R intercooler is junk.

Nothing JDM makes better power then ETS, AMS, or Buschur.

JDM=just double the money. Nothing else good about JDM parts.

We do it better.
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 05:08 PM
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AMS is only 25 minutes away from me so I tend to lean towards them. Don't have any ETS goodies on my car so can't speak about them.

I love the parts I have from AMS even though I had to pay more for them. They fit really well, in most cases better than stock and the R&D that goes into them pays off too.
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 05:37 PM
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I have ETS TBE and I love it. there are minimal bends and it sounds badass. That and the fact that they have an anodization option for their intercoolers lead me to buy one of their gold intercoolers. its probably not everyones cup of tea but its baller fa sho and im more then happy with the gains. Dont have any experience with AMS, but im nothing but happy with ETS
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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 09:14 PM
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I'm planning on going ETS based on what people are saying. Seems like a great Product!
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by dee242
if u want quality and perfect welds go hks there not all about power but balance but on the other hand am a ams guy
Hks and greddy both buy turbos from garett, put their name on them, do a few tweaks and sell them for an extra x dollars.


Originally Posted by Fishstix
If we're talking about 3 letter companies than ARC is the way to go.

Why?

-Way overpriced
-Nonexistent customer service
-JDM exclusivity (except for the other 100 people that have the same parts)
I love the way ARC products look, but I would think twice about buying from a company that recently went into bankruptcy.

And they are not sold at auto zone.
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Germania123
I'm planning on going ETS based on what people are saying. Seems like a great Product!


FishStix it's APC sold autozone lol. I had to go there this weekend and noticed the goofy items.

Michael
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 11:22 AM
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ams wide mouth vs ets dp...

any comments? stuck between the 2... ams winning me over atm... the cast wide mount looks awesome


comments suggestions welcome!
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by porto
ams wide mouth vs ets dp...

any comments? stuck between the 2... ams winning me over atm... the cast wide mount looks awesome


comments suggestions welcome!
ETS man and go with the open dump!!! You will get comment after comment from people saying how badass your car sounds. After installing mine I took two of my buddies for a ride and they were in awwww over how it sounded at wot. I get people telling me all the time that my car is a beast.

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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by porto
ams wide mouth vs ets dp...

any comments? stuck between the 2... ams winning me over atm... the cast wide mount looks awesome


comments suggestions welcome!
Our downpipe has been proven over the wide mouth design by several reputable sources. Mike @ AWD has made more power with our downpipe then any other downpipe on the market for the X.

The reason for splitting the wastegate gasses from the exhaust gases is to prevent any excess turbulence. When the wastegate opens and closes it draws air backwards and interrupts the exhaust flow. By separating the gasses it allows for a smooth exhaust flow with no excess turbulence.

We have a nifty little drawing that was done in fluid dynamics to show the flow patterns of our downpipe.



If you have a wastegate opening and closing you would see the interrupt in flow, but by having it separated it flows perfectly.

Thanks!

Michael
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Old Sep 12, 2011 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ETS Michael
Our downpipe has been proven over the wide mouth design by several reputable sources. Mike @ AWD has made more power with our downpipe then any other downpipe on the market for the X.

The reason for splitting the wastegate gasses from the exhaust gases is to prevent any excess turbulence. When the wastegate opens and closes it draws air backwards and interrupts the exhaust flow. By separating the gasses it allows for a smooth exhaust flow with no excess turbulence.

We have a nifty little drawing that was done in fluid dynamics to show the flow patterns of our downpipe.



If you have a wastegate opening and closing you would see the interrupt in flow, but by having it separated it flows perfectly.

Thanks!


Michael
Well isn't this nifty..
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 08:18 AM
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hahah.. You know it!
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 08:27 AM
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I think Michael that that on Speed Post..... nice.
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ETS Michael
Our downpipe has been proven over the wide mouth design by several reputable sources. Mike @ AWD has made more power with our downpipe then any other downpipe on the market for the X.

The reason for splitting the wastegate gasses from the exhaust gases is to prevent any excess turbulence. When the wastegate opens and closes it draws air backwards and interrupts the exhaust flow. By separating the gasses it allows for a smooth exhaust flow with no excess turbulence.

We have a nifty little drawing that was done in fluid dynamics to show the flow patterns of our downpipe.



If you have a wastegate opening and closing you would see the interrupt in flow, but by having it separated it flows perfectly.

Thanks!

Michael
Hi Michael,

Can you explain what you said here further
Quoted form above : "When the wastegate opens and closes it draws air backwards and interrupts the exhaust flow."?



Also the EVO X turbine housing already has a divider wall built in between the turbine exit and the WG port. The only time this could affect anything, (and it would be a very minor affect at that) is if this divider wall would not be there and the WG port exit was shooting directly into the turbine exit stream.



-Martin Musial
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AutoMotoSports
Hi Michael,

Can you explain what you said here further
Quoted form above : "When the wastegate opens and closes it draws air backwards and interrupts the exhaust flow."?
Sounds like I was doing 100 things at one time.

The reason for separating the wastegate gasses from the exhaust gasses is to have non interrupted flow or excess turbulence when the wastegate gasses enter the exhaust stream. By having a separate dump tube for the wastegate gasses this guarantees smooth exhaust flow and by the time the wastegate gasses reach the exhaust steam they will have an established flow pattern.

The Evolution X exhaust manifold does have a divider build into it, but the wastegate is not open 100% of the time or between shifts this is where the interrupted flow will take place.

Granted this may be a minor difference, but we have had several shops report higher horsepower gains using a divided downpipe vs a bell mouth style downpipe.

Thanks,

Michael

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