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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 08:37 AM
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The entire line. You can buy fittings (from Jegs, etc) that are a direct fit to the factory high pressure nipples on the fuel pump housing. I can help you with the fittings if you want. At the speed you work, you'd probably have it plumbed up in an hour if you had all the pieces in front of you.
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That info could be helpful for many mrfred. Perhaps even for myself down the road.
PM'd ya mrfred, we can start a new thread...

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If his is wired the same as mine, no. I have the factory fuel pump wire turning on a seperate relay that has power supplying the BAP directly from the battery. All larger wiring for the BAP too in order to feed it.
Mine is wired as they recommend, nothing fancy. Just using factory wiring. I'll measure voltage at the pump under boost sometime.

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That's the way to get max power out of the BAP, but it drives the pump at pretty high power (battery voltage or 17.5 volts) all the time. Definitely requires an aftermarket FPR.
ya, a w400 at full line voltage (12-14v) would def require an afpr.
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 10:45 AM
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Assuming that the nipples on the Evo 10 housing are the same size as used on the Evo 8/9 housing, then the key piece is Aeromotive PN 15118. This converts from the quick connect nipple on the pump housing to -8 AN flare threads. The -8 AN side it not actually a flare fitting though. The way to connect to it is to use a -8 AN male to male connector and put an o-ring on the end that connects to 15118. From there, the rest of the arrangement can be AN fittings and hose all the way to the rail.
After a bit of discussion with scheides, I found a more simple adapter solution made by Russell:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RUS-644003/
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
After a bit of discussion with scheides, I found a more simple adapter solution made by Russell:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RUS-644003/
Man, that makes it look pretty straight forward. Thanks for the info! (I'm kinda using info from this thread, yet I don't have a w400. Currently I have a aeromotive 340 with the BAP... but with the chance of going to a w400 if needed, but doubtful. Car was running idc's around 55% on pump gas with my set up.)
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 07:07 AM
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So, back to the walbro 400. I had it drilled to 2.0mm with a 5/64" bit. AFRs touching 11.8-12.0 after swapping in the EF4 for the BBX.

Friday I had some spare time and decided to drill it to 2.4mm but when I saw the 7/64" bit I just went for it. That puts the siphon at about a hair shy of 2.8mm.

Ran the tank down below 1/4, parked on a hill for a while, restarted fine, so siphon seems to be working just dandy. Logs show that WOT AFRs are a healthy .3 AFR richer, which is good...on the EF4 I'm going to need every last ounce out of this thing. VirtualDyno still showing ~635whp dynojet @31psi.

Base pressure doesn't seem to have changed, still 45-ish. I'm still on the stock FPR so I think an AFPR will be in order if I want to attempt to get it lower. I'm happy for now, but a fuel rail and then -6AN feed line and then maybe AFPR are definitely on the horizon.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by scheides
So, back to the walbro 400. I had it drilled to 2.0mm with a 5/64" bit. AFRs touching 11.8-12.0 after swapping in the EF4 for the BBX.

Friday I had some spare time and decided to drill it to 2.4mm but when I saw the 7/64" bit I just went for it. That puts the siphon at about a hair shy of 2.8mm.

Ran the tank down below 1/4, parked on a hill for a while, restarted fine, so siphon seems to be working just dandy. Logs show that WOT AFRs are a healthy .3 AFR richer, which is good...on the EF4 I'm going to need every last ounce out of this thing. VirtualDyno still showing ~635whp dynojet @31psi.

Base pressure doesn't seem to have changed, still 45-ish. I'm still on the stock FPR so I think an AFPR will be in order if I want to attempt to get it lower. I'm happy for now, but a fuel rail and then -6AN feed line and then maybe AFPR are definitely on the horizon.
Seems a bit odd for WOT AFRs to go richer after further opening the siphon hole because the siphon is on the return side.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
Seems a bit odd for WOT AFRs to go richer after further opening the siphon hole because the siphon is on the return side.
Ya, I would think it would be tied to base pressure dropping, except I didn't really see that happen...idk! Just reporting what I see
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 10:38 PM
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Just started the install on my surge tank today. Pulled the pump housing and drilled the siphon to 5/64" or 2.0mm but couldnt find the little filter. Where is this located?
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 10:42 PM
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^ in the tube that goes to the top of the bit you drilled out, or just after it. sprry it's been a while...
you'll need to take the (?black?) tube off the top of the return assy (split it with a knife) to get to it, and use a small clamp to put it back on.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Beeble
^ in the tube that goes to the top of the bit you drilled out, or just after it. sprry it's been a while...
you'll need to take the (?black?) tube off the top of the return assy (split it with a knife) to get to it, and use a small clamp to put it back on.
ahh. yah I was hesitant to cut that line.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 11:13 PM
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Me too.
prob worth it though if you find crud in there.
and there's no way to get the thing off without cutting it AFAIK. maybe heat might work...
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 06:51 AM
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Me too.
prob worth it though if you find crud in there.
and there's no way to get the thing off without cutting it AFAIK. maybe heat might work...
CAUTION, you're working on a fuel system!

I had cut mine when I installed the pump in the first place, pulled it off for easier access, but yea I had to carefully cut mine too. Just do it cleanly, with a razor, then trim a bit and reinstall with a hose clamp, easy peasy.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:08 PM
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lol I was thinking like a hairdryer
I used a razor blade aswell.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 09:30 PM
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Has the Min Load for Fuel Pump High Voltage been defined for ROMs 55570005 or 55570006?
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 12:19 AM
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Has the Min Load for Fuel Pump High Voltage been defined for ROMs 55570005 or 55570006?
I got it tugboat.... dont worry

59036 if i recall (or 59038)
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by hotstix
Has the Min Load for Fuel Pump High Voltage been defined for ROMs 55570005 or 55570006?
I could use it for those roms as well.
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