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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 01:57 PM
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Ha 7163 IWG or EWG and why please?
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 02:15 PM
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EWG is easier to tune (from what I've seen), IWG is smaller footprint.

Ewg also make the car just a touch louder lol
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 02:25 PM
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Well I'm already use to my open dump so don't think I would mind EWG lol
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 07:30 PM
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28* of timing is past MBT. I hope you meant 18*...
hey man, so i just pulled a log, and sure enough, its 28* of timing at the top. I've attached the log.

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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 08:01 PM
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I've seen a couple stock turbo running 17* up top so I believe this^
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by roidz3
Ha 7163 IWG or EWG and why please?


I run the 7163 IWG.


IWG costs less, with an easier (also cheaper) install. I'm not sure there would be a whole lot to gain going EWG on the 7163, though I'm sure others can chime in on that front.
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 06:18 AM
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hey man, so i just pulled a log, and sure enough, its 28* of timing at the top. I've attached the log.

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On 93 octane pump gas typically cars end up around 18-20* timing at 7000 rpm, move to 100 octane and you can see 20-22* timing. With E85 you usually end up about 4-5* timing higher than the pump gas map which is 22*-25* range. The critical thing with E85 is that it doesn't really knock that much so making sure a change gives consistent gains is really important. There is no sense in running extra timing if it's actually hurting power and is just risking damage to your engine. Keep in mind that every car is different and large turbo setups running higher boost levels will mean varying levels of knock sensitivity which effect how much timing can be safely run.
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 07:02 AM
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And that was taken into consideration when tuning. Each degree netted an increase in power. We probably could have pushed it further, but 500 was my goal, and so we stopped there. We weren't just running timing to run timing.
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 07:53 AM
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Well looks like now it's just a matter on deciding what kit to go with which right now has me leaning towards full race even tho DF kit looks great as well CBRB for the 7163.
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Old Aug 12, 2016 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Mortose
hey man, so i just pulled a log, and sure enough, its 28* of timing at the top. I've attached the log.

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That's way too much timing, everywhere, like 7-10* too much everywhere. Just an FYI. If you have access to your ROM, I would probably just pull 10* out of the WOT area of the timing map. Or have someone else tune it (I would probably pull 10*, then have someone else tune it). That thing is, just, wow....


I'm not trying bash your build, or your car, or you. I just want you to know that those timing levels aren't safe. You're going to beat the bearings out of it, or break a rod or piston.


JohnBradley (Aaron at English Racing) Can you get squared away with an Etune.


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