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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Quote :We're upon 2008 and you kids need to walk on a car lot and check out prices. There isn't (1) car out there with as much HP and AWD that's any less than the EVO and STI.


Are you kidding? Pontiac G8 GT, 365 HP, faster 0-60 time (unconfirmed), base model is 28K, fully loaded is 33K. Although not comparable platforms there is plenty of competition!!!!
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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Hope noone forgot but mitsu is having money problems. Im sure that did impact the price. But must agree... NOT ENOUGH BANG FOR THE BUCK.
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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G35x, 335XI, 135, Volvo S40, R32, IS350, A4, mustang GT ,Sabb 9-3x, STI, mazdaspeed 6 ect

The evo X is a low- mid 5sec car running a 14 sec 1/4 mile trapping 96-98mph so almost of all these cars are competition.

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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Poondoggs
Quote :We're upon 2008 and you kids need to walk on a car lot and check out prices. There isn't (1) car out there with as much HP and AWD that's any less than the EVO and STI.


Are you kidding? Pontiac G8 GT, 365 HP, faster 0-60 time (unconfirmed), base model is 28K, fully loaded is 33K. Although not comparable platforms there is plenty of competition!!!!
apples and oranges.....
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by markymark669
apples and oranges.....
Question: Would be rather buy a 35K apple or a 33K orange, and you get leather and nav, and 19in rims? LOL
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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who knows they may stop selling the evo after this like they did the 3000gt....let's hope not
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Poondoggs
Question: Would be rather buy a 35K apple or a 33K orange, and you get leather and nav, and 19in rims? LOL
you can dress the orange up with whatever u want but it still doesnt have AWD. that was my whole point
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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Yes, both EVO or Sti does offer a lot of bang for the buck. However, incresing its price is just not right.

Now Mitsu is aiming to turn heads from non-fan based audiences with this X..AWD, roomy 4dr sedan with 300hp turbo engine in it.. So consumers are ready to put down $40K on Mitsu product just because it out performs same catigorized sedans? ..and while people already knowing that there are no significant performance upgrade from previous generation? NO.
And comparing X's value with cars that came out 10 years ago like Supra, RX7 is just not right man...

If answered yes, then I guess everyone should be happy about $3.50 tag on a gallon of gas while it was only a buck 10 years ago..

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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by billyblonco
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G35x, 335XI, 135, Volvo S40, R32, IS350, A4, mustang GT ,Sabb 9-3x, STI, mazdaspeed 6 ect

The evo X is a low- mid 5sec car running a 14 sec 1/4 mile trapping 96-98mph so almost of all these cars are competition.
well if your only definition of performance runs 1/4 mile at a time, then your right, there's plenty of competition. But where was it ever written (with the exception of EvoM's keyboard dragracer's) that the Evo (I to X) was ever designed and engineered to get the best trap-speed. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a Japanese automotive engineer who gives a flying f#ck about our apparent version of what makes a performance car.
If that's your goal then look elsewhere.
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay-X80
Yes, both EVO or Sti does offer a lot of bang for the buck. However, incresing its price is just not right.

Now Mitsu is aiming to turn heads from non-fan based audiences with this X..AWD, roomy 4dr sedan with 300hp turbo engine in it.. So consumers are ready to put down $40K on Mitsu product just because it out performs same catigorized sedans? ..and while people already knowing that there are no significant performance upgrade from previous generation? NO.

So I guess everyone should be happy about $3.50 tag on a gallon of gas while it was only a buck 10 years ago..
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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well if your only definition of performance runs 1/4 mile at a time, then your right, there's plenty of competition. But where was it ever written (with the exception of EvoM's keyboard dragracer's) that the Evo (I to X) was ever designed and engineered to get the best trap-speed. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a Japanese automotive engineer who gives a flying f#ck about our apparent version of what makes a performance car.
If that's your goal then look elsewhere.
Couldn't said it any better Kids signing up on evoM forums, talking about how Evo X is too expensive have no clue what Lancer Evolution is all about (some compare Evo to a freaking Pontiac G8 ). A lot of people are obsessed with drag racing here and if you are looking for a 0-60 drag racing machine then yeah, there are cheaper and better options out there. But here is the thing, Lancer Evo nor STI were never designer as 0-60 time as their primary and most important goal. It's all about AWD and chassis control, it's something that a lot of American kids seem to have no clue about.
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by blitzkrieg79
Couldn't said it any better Kids signing up on evoM forums, talking about how Evo X is too expensive have no clue what Lancer Evolution is all about (some compare Evo to a freaking Pontiac G8 ). A lot of people are obsessed with drag racing here and if you are looking for a 0-60 drag racing machine then yeah, there are cheaper and better options out there. But here is the thing, Lancer Evo nor STI were never designer as 0-60 time as their primary and most important goal. It's all about AWD and chassis control, it's something that a lot of American kids seem to have no clue about.
Good point. First, my biggest frustration is Mitsu is not releasing the MSRP price. Is it a gimmick or ploy? Second, it looks like we will have to pay 34K for a base GSR. Why should I not buy a used Evo IX?
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Poondoggs
Good point. First, my biggest frustration is Mitsu is not releasing the MSRP price. Is it a gimmick or ploy? Second, it looks like we will have to pay 34K for a base GSR. Why should I not buy a used Evo IX?
it's all up to the person. some people don't want to take a chance dealing with other peoples' headaches, especially on a performance car that has been beat.
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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EVO X is just tooo heavy for me! I was 99% sure i was buying one but now..I'm thinking 135i.
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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EVO X is just tooo heavy for me! I was 99% sure i was buying one but now..I'm thinking 135i.
You do realize that BMW 135i will weight about 100lbs less than BMW 335i which itself weights over 3500lbs and that is for a version without AWD system? It's funny how people complain about Evo X weight and then mention how they are gonna get the 1 series instead when in fact the 1 series is a smaller car capacity wise than Evo X while weighting almost the same as Evo X
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