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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Euro STI has 2.5 fyi.. However, the power to weight leans towards to STI significantly...

Mitsu did a little blunder by underpowering the Evo, but thts wht aftermarkets are for.
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bighec
...quote the man with the poofy black vest... "I Know the entry speed in this corner with a Ferrari or a Lamborghini is 65... I just did it at 110!!!"

That is freaking awesome! This video was so empowering! I almost feel bad for any ****** that bought an STI! LOL!!!
im a "******" that bought an sti and i've grown accustomed to some bashing, but hey, its all in good fun.
as mentioned many times, top gear is most purely for entertainment, and it was very entertaining for me to watch JC eat crow haha
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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It was strange to see the STI come out on top. But it could also be the gearing in both the STI and SST GSR. Every little thing counts as well. I believe the STI is a tad bit lighter in Europe and japan because of the 2.0L engine instead of our 2.5L. I could be wrong but these are just some facts that can make or break a difference. It will be interesting once fifth gear gets their hands on these 2 car.
I don't think it came out on top. 30 minutes of getting spit on by Jeremy Clarkson is not what I would call the top By the way, the times were 1:28.2 for the STI and 1:28.22 for the EVO X..that is 2 hundredths of a second... lol ...with a bad launch that is kind of sad for the Subaru that the X caught back up with that tranny because a bad launch could equal to a loss of even maybe as bad as .5 of a second.

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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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Wow you predicted this last September??????? You knew it all along huh? Cant nobody fool DrSmile, he knows it all!
What are you saying exactly? I posted that the stig wouldn't beat an IX with the X back in September on this site. My reasoning was that fancy electronics are a poor substitute for lightness.

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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Paikman GTR
im a "******" that bought an sti and i've grown accustomed to some bashing, but hey, its all in good fun.
as mentioned many times, top gear is most purely for entertainment, and it was very entertaining for me to watch JC eat crow haha

Well, a good sport of a ****** you are!!! But really, I guess they both have their pro's, and con's. I have always liked both, I just so happened to like the EVO more.
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Paikman GTR
im a "******" that bought an sti and i've grown accustomed to some bashing, but hey, its all in good fun.
as mentioned many times, top gear is most purely for entertainment, and it was very entertaining for me to watch JC eat crow haha
For what it's worth - I think there was little objectivity in this Top Gear review. Both cars are more evenly matched that hard-core fans of either are willing to admit.
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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Maybe I am wrong, but I don't recall the Stig driving an Evo IX on Top Gear in the past.
I've seen the Evo IX on Fifth Gear.
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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After checking again to see if it was .8 or not it was this:

1:28.22 for EVO X
1:28.20 for STI

Both these cars beat the EVO 8 and the last Impreza. Stig never drove the 9 like that, they only ran the FQ400 vs the Lambo.

The EVO handles better, I can't believe what a lousy start stig got on that SST tranny. I am surprised the thing finished the race and he didn't just break the thing.

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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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They must have been pusyfooting the evo around the track. Because its the evo should have been at least three seconds faster than the STI. I bet the STI was modded or reflashed to even compete with the evo. They just need to run the STI against other wagons and hatches not with the evo. The STI is in a different catigory and the evo is in a different league. Why do they compair them any more? The evo needs to run against the M3, Z06, and AMG's.
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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What are you saying exactly? I posted that the stig wouldn't beat an IX with the X back in September on this site. My reasoning was that fancy electronics are a poor substitute for lightness.
Is that why you drive an Elise?
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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Was the stig driving an mr? The car had gsr wheels and they never talked about the mr's tranny. Im waiting for another episode
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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I do not understand why is this conteraversial.

Almost all the track times here in the US are done from flying starts, ie, you do warm up lap, you do a couple of fast laps and a cool down lap. ALL of them are done in the same session.

Top Gear does it differently. They do standing starts. If the Evo in question was an SST, then it is at a huge disadvantage from a standing start. You can see it from the launch.

But despite the horrible launch, the MR still caught up and only lost by 0.02 seconds.

Had this test been conducted with flying starts, then the Evo would have won just like it has done in other flying start tests.

It is really simple, different testing rules beget different results.
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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i was wondering the same thing... the wheels looked like the GSR ones. But i think it is b/c it was a SST GSR though (as prev. mentioned).
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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They said he was driving the 6 speed. There is no 6 speed manual so it has to be the SST, but europe doesnt get same models; wheels and suspension are still an upgrade doesnt come in package like it does here in US
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by InitialE
For what it's worth - I think there was little objectivity in this Top Gear review. Both cars are more evenly matched that hard-core fans of either are willing to admit.
Pretty much. I think the times speak for themself, they're within a 10th of each other basically. Even at top levels of tuning, with pro drivers it's always close.
The motor in terms of VE and turbine choice for stock goes to Mitsu hands down though, both in the X and previous generations, I will gladly be the first to admit that.
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