Evo X vs STi on next week's Top Gear
Ever thought about looking up things for yourself? (http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpconta...6/pageNumber=4)
0-60 mph acceleration, sec.
EVO X GSR 4.9
EVO X MR 5.2
08 STI 4.5
Diff=0.7 Sec to 60
Quarter-mile acceleration, sec.
EVO X GSR 13.6
EVO X MR 13.9
08 STI 13.3
Diff=0.6 sec to 1/4
Quarter-mile speed, mph
EVO X GSR 101.3
EVO X MR 98.8
08 STI 100.3
GSR version faster and catching up, the MR is still behind at a 1/4. Shows how much the SST is slowing down the launch.
All and all this supports my post...the EVO MR does not launch as hard so gives up 0.6 to 0.7 sec just at the take off that it almost claws all back by the end of the 1st lap. If given a couple of more laps the STI is toast....I bet the GSR catches it before the end of the first lap.
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Car and Driver have the MR even slower than those numbers. 5.4 for car and driver and I think Road & Track Even have it at 5.6.
Car Driver also has the GSR in one test doing it at 4.6 and in another 4.9 though.
Car Driver also has the GSR in one test doing it at 4.6 and in another 4.9 though.
Ever thought about looking up things for yourself? (http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpconta...6/pageNumber=4)
0-60 mph acceleration, sec.
EVO X GSR 4.9
EVO X MR 5.2
08 STI 4.5
Diff=0.7 Sec to 60
Quarter-mile acceleration, sec.
EVO X GSR 13.6
EVO X MR 13.9
08 STI 13.3
Diff=0.6 sec to 1/4
Quarter-mile speed, mph
EVO X GSR 101.3
EVO X MR 98.8
08 STI 100.3
GSR version faster and catching up, the MR is still behind at a 1/4. Shows how much the SST is slowing down the launch.
All and all this supports my post...the EVO MR does not launch as hard so gives up 0.6 to 0.7 sec just at the take off that it almost claws all back by the end of the 1st lap. If given a couple of more laps the STI is toast....I bet the GSR catches it before the end of the first lap.
0-60 mph acceleration, sec.
EVO X GSR 4.9
EVO X MR 5.2
08 STI 4.5
Diff=0.7 Sec to 60
Quarter-mile acceleration, sec.
EVO X GSR 13.6
EVO X MR 13.9
08 STI 13.3
Diff=0.6 sec to 1/4
Quarter-mile speed, mph
EVO X GSR 101.3
EVO X MR 98.8
08 STI 100.3
GSR version faster and catching up, the MR is still behind at a 1/4. Shows how much the SST is slowing down the launch.
All and all this supports my post...the EVO MR does not launch as hard so gives up 0.6 to 0.7 sec just at the take off that it almost claws all back by the end of the 1st lap. If given a couple of more laps the STI is toast....I bet the GSR catches it before the end of the first lap.
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Look at it this way. Even though the Top gear review wasn't as stunning as everyone expected it to be both the EVO's and STI are a major improvement in one way or another. These are both great cars. My buddy Love9sick got an EVO X and yes it is amazing. The STI I'm sure is no slouch either. We just have to look at it as the EVO has always been ahead since the begging and the STI is not that far behind. This year they have improved both models with new better, and might I add stunning Super-Handling. Sure looks are good/bad for some people but really these cars outweigh the previous models in nearly every way. A change has been made and it is better, some might not see, it others don't want to believe it, but sooner or later they will find them selfs appreciating the new models.
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Ever thought about looking up things for yourself? (http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpconta...6/pageNumber=4)
0-60 mph acceleration, sec.
EVO X GSR 4.9
EVO X MR 5.2
08 STI 4.5
Diff=0.7 Sec to 60
Quarter-mile acceleration, sec.
EVO X GSR 13.6
EVO X MR 13.9
08 STI 13.3
Diff=0.6 sec to 1/4
Quarter-mile speed, mph
EVO X GSR 101.3
EVO X MR 98.8
08 STI 100.3
GSR version faster and catching up, the MR is still behind at a 1/4. Shows how much the SST is slowing down the launch.
All and all this supports my post...the EVO MR does not launch as hard so gives up 0.6 to 0.7 sec just at the take off that it almost claws all back by the end of the 1st lap. If given a couple of more laps the STI is toast....I bet the GSR catches it before the end of the first lap.
0-60 mph acceleration, sec.
EVO X GSR 4.9
EVO X MR 5.2
08 STI 4.5
Diff=0.7 Sec to 60
Quarter-mile acceleration, sec.
EVO X GSR 13.6
EVO X MR 13.9
08 STI 13.3
Diff=0.6 sec to 1/4
Quarter-mile speed, mph
EVO X GSR 101.3
EVO X MR 98.8
08 STI 100.3
GSR version faster and catching up, the MR is still behind at a 1/4. Shows how much the SST is slowing down the launch.
All and all this supports my post...the EVO MR does not launch as hard so gives up 0.6 to 0.7 sec just at the take off that it almost claws all back by the end of the 1st lap. If given a couple of more laps the STI is toast....I bet the GSR catches it before the end of the first lap.
I would like to see the number for the MR after about 40-50k miles on the car. Most of the people I know that have Sport shift trannys complain about the slow switching from gear to gear after all the mileage they put on. The reason I say most is because the other had the tranny rebuilt or just went to a stick.
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Look at it this way. Even though the Top gear review wasn't as stunning as everyone expected it to be both the EVO's and STI are a major improvement in one way or another. These are both great cars. My buddy Love9sick got an EVO X and yes it is amazing. The STI I'm sure is no slouch either. We just have to look at it as the EVO has always been ahead since the begging and the STI is not that far behind. This year they have improved both models with new better, and might I add stunning Super-Handling. Sure looks are good/bad for some people but really these cars outweigh the previous models in nearly every way. A change has been made and it is better, some might not see, it others don't want to believe it, but sooner or later they will find them selfs appreciating the new models.
Last edited by love9sick; Jul 1, 2008 at 12:46 AM.
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i think jc is being sarcastic and acting like a evo fanboy, im suprised the sti was almost dead even with those bad dunlop 17/235 tires and 12k cheaper. seems the europe and japan model sti is faster but the usa version isnt.
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better than the stig?? haha
Sigh, such thoughts like one cannot be better that 'the stig' are just (IMO) mindless, fanboy thoughts.
NO ONE knows who 'the stig' (the current 'white one') is. So how can you can anyone really say. Sure, he's certainly a great driver, there are lots of great drivers.
Also, let's be realistic here. The stig is not one person, and I don't mean from white to black either. The 'white' one is not always the same person. That's why he can't talk or be seen. Sure, they'll tell you he can't talk because his opinions on cars 'would be rubbish', but lets be realistic they are protecting the character while maintaining the possibility of hiring any driver, anytime. I'm sure each and every 'different' dirver that has played the stig is under contractual obligation not to reveal it thusly.
Just keep this in mind when bowing down to 'the stig'. I can near guarantee the fact is that the stig is NOT a single individual at all. All indicators point to that, and barring facts to the contrary, I'm sticking with that as how I see his character. Just a very good racecar driver....on an entertaining TV show.
NO ONE knows who 'the stig' (the current 'white one') is. So how can you can anyone really say. Sure, he's certainly a great driver, there are lots of great drivers.
Also, let's be realistic here. The stig is not one person, and I don't mean from white to black either. The 'white' one is not always the same person. That's why he can't talk or be seen. Sure, they'll tell you he can't talk because his opinions on cars 'would be rubbish', but lets be realistic they are protecting the character while maintaining the possibility of hiring any driver, anytime. I'm sure each and every 'different' dirver that has played the stig is under contractual obligation not to reveal it thusly.
Just keep this in mind when bowing down to 'the stig'. I can near guarantee the fact is that the stig is NOT a single individual at all. All indicators point to that, and barring facts to the contrary, I'm sticking with that as how I see his character. Just a very good racecar driver....on an entertaining TV show.
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that's exactly it. the point is that the car inspires so much confidence because it lets you take corners faster than you should, without penalizing you by spinning out.