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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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it has something to do with the Chrysler engine 4b11t or is totally made by mitsubishi
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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Joint development motor (world motor). It in the SRT4 Caliber, Evo X, and soon the Hyundai Genesis Coupe.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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Joint development motor (world motor). It in the SRT4 Caliber, Evo X, and soon the Hyundai Genesis Coupe.
That's a bit misleading. It's almost akin to saying the 5.4 in the F150 is the same as the 5.4 in the Ford GT.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Found this on wikepedia.....

The Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance LLC, or GEMA, is a manufacturing arm of Global Engine Alliance LLC, which is a joint venture of Chrysler, Mitsubishi Motors, and Hyundai Motor Company for developing a line of shared engines.

A 285 hp (213 kW) turbocharged variant of this engine will be used in the high-performance SRT-4 version of the Caliber.

The 2.4 engine is also the standard engine in the North American 2007 Chrysler Sebring and 2008 Dodge Avenger.

Applications:

* 2007- Chrysler Sebring
* 2008- Dodge Avenger
* 2007- Dodge Caliber R/T, 173 hp (129 kW) and SRT-4, 285 hp (213 kW)
* 2007- Jeep Compass
* 2007- Jeep Patriot
* 2009- Dodge Journey


The Mitsubishi 4B1 engine is a range of all-alloy straight-4 engines built at Mitsubishi's Japanese "World Engine" powertrain plant in Shiga on the basis of the Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance (GEMA).[1][2][3] Although the basic designs of the various engines are the same, their exact specifications are individually tailored for each partner.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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I cut and pasted info from two different search results.....Mitsubishi 4B1 engine & Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 07:45 AM
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Its not the 4B11T in the hyundia it's the 4B11 from what I've read.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 08:04 AM
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pop the hood on the Srt4 and you will see a familiar layout...not the "same" engine-there was a thread on this a while ago and a few of us had words about it . Internals will be diff, turbo, ect-but the layout, bore, stroke-basics of the engine are closely related.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Furley
Its not the 4B11T in the hyundia it's the 4B11 from what I've read.
They are all based on the 4B1 engine.

Originally Posted by 08EvoXGSR
pop the hood on the Srt4 and you will see a familiar layout...not the "same" engine-there was a thread on this a while ago and a few of us had words about it . Internals will be diff, turbo, ect-but the layout, bore, stroke-basics of the engine are closely related.
"Although the basic designs of the various engines are the same, their exact specifications are individually tailored for each partner."
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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Yeah but different.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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history time!

Back in 2002 or so, Chrysler, Hyundia and Mitsubishi decided to formally team up to make a common engine platform, where all 3 builders would have rights to the production of the basic engines. They called this alliance the Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance, or GEMA. Chrysler calls the engine the 'World Engine'. Keep in mind that Chrysler used Mitsu engines before all this, but those were not world engines (ie: 6g73 in Sebrings, 4g64 in the Talon, etc).

The goal of GEMA was to use the combined engineering power to reduce design costs, and to let each plant make nearly a quarter million engines per year. Last I heard, there were 4 plants cooking World Engines (Mitsu 1 in Japan, Chrysler one in Michigan, and 2 Hyundai ones in Korea), making about 2mil engines per year. Another bonus is part computability and reduced repair costs.

Being a world engine means that the cylinder blocks are the same. The general design all used aluminum heads/blocks, had 4 valves per cylinder, and were setup in DOHC configurations (exception: 4g69, which was an early GEMA SOHC MIVEC setup that mitsu used in the 2004-2006 Ralliart and Eclipse). However, each manufacturer is on their own when it comes to the intake manifold, intake and exhaust head porting, etc.

Chrysler and Mitsubishi kept the same name for their 2.0L variant (4b11), but hyundia renamed theirs (Theta II) for the Genesis Coupe. But all this means is they share a common block and some other basic design elements. Other than that, they are NOT the same.

More info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_...uring_Alliance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chrysler_engines
http://www.gemaengine.com/
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by blk-majik
history time!

Back in 2002 or so, Chrysler, Hyundia and Mitsubishi decided to formally team up to make a common engine platform, where all 3 builders would have rights to the production of the basic engines. They called this alliance the Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance, or GEMA. Chrysler calls the engine the 'World Engine'. Keep in mind that Chrysler used Mitsu engines before all this, but those were not world engines (ie: 6g73 in Sebrings, 4g64 in the Talon, etc).

The goal of GEMA was to use the combined engineering power to reduce design costs, and to let each plant make nearly a quarter million engines per year. Last I heard, there were 4 plants cooking World Engines (Mitsu 1 in Japan, Chrysler one in Michigan, and 2 Hyundai ones in Korea), making about 2mil engines per year. Another bonus is part computability and reduced repair costs.

Being a world engine means that the cylinder blocks are the same. The general design all used aluminum heads/blocks, had 4 valves per cylinder, and were setup in DOHC configurations (exception: 4g69, which was an early GEMA SOHC MIVEC setup that mitsu used in the 2004-2006 Ralliart and Eclipse). However, each manufacturer is on their own when it comes to the intake manifold, intake and exhaust head porting, etc.

Chrysler and Mitsubishi kept the same name for their 2.0L variant (4b11), but hyundia renamed theirs (Theta II) for the Genesis Coupe. But all this means is they share a common block and some other basic design elements. Other than that, they are NOT the same.

More info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_...uring_Alliance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chrysler_engines
http://www.gemaengine.com/
+1
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Furley
Yeah but different.
Originally Posted by blk-majik
history time!

Back in 2002 or so, Chrysler, Hyundia and Mitsubishi decided to formally team up to make a common engine platform, where all 3 builders would have rights to the production of the basic engines. They called this alliance the Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance, or GEMA. Chrysler calls the engine the 'World Engine'. Keep in mind that Chrysler used Mitsu engines before all this, but those were not world engines (ie: 6g73 in Sebrings, 4g64 in the Talon, etc).

The goal of GEMA was to use the combined engineering power to reduce design costs, and to let each plant make nearly a quarter million engines per year. Last I heard, there were 4 plants cooking World Engines (Mitsu 1 in Japan, Chrysler one in Michigan, and 2 Hyundai ones in Korea), making about 2mil engines per year. Another bonus is part computability and reduced repair costs.

Being a world engine means that the cylinder blocks are the same. The general design all used aluminum heads/blocks, had 4 valves per cylinder, and were setup in DOHC configurations (exception: 4g69, which was an early GEMA SOHC MIVEC setup that mitsu used in the 2004-2006 Ralliart and Eclipse). However, each manufacturer is on their own when it comes to the intake manifold, intake and exhaust head porting, etc.

Chrysler and Mitsubishi kept the same name for their 2.0L variant (4b11), but hyundia renamed theirs (Theta II) for the Genesis Coupe. But all this means is they share a common block and some other basic design elements. Other than that, they are NOT the same.

More info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_...uring_Alliance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chrysler_engines
http://www.gemaengine.com/
Originally Posted by 08EvoXGSR
+1

They are all based on the 4B1 engine. Regardless of what they each call their engines, each are from the basis of what GEMA developed.

I'll type it again........."Although the basic designs of the various engines are the same, their exact specifications are individually tailored for each partner."
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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Too many engine codes in this thread that look like typos
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