With a NISMO/Stillen supercharger, the 370Z could be a great daily driver sport coupe... With the twin turbo setups claiming 450whp, it makes me wish that Nissan would make an AWD trim.

 

My guess would be more advertising... MUCH more... you NEVER see Evo ad's or commercials here.. i'm not sure about the rest of the country. The Z has also been around for how long now? Decades!! it's much more well known and has a style that appeals I think to more people.

 

I don't know, but I find it hard to believe that stock vs. stock it would be better than the X's because of the S-AWC and all the other goodies that help the handling.

 

No one makes a supercharger for the 370Z yet. Where did you get NISMO supercharger?

The TT kits for the VQ37VHR are making ~550 to the wheels on pump and no internal work.

 

Not that I've heard.

 

the z is a great car...my brother owned a 300 and a 350...that 300 lasted for 300k miles with only minor problems...very minor....that car was bullet proof...had lots of power and got great gas mileage..it was a 1984 model...first year of the 300z....i loved driving that thing although the rear was easy to get swirly on uneven pavement when turning in the rain...lol....wasn't much weight back there....he only kept his 350z for a lil while cuz he got married and sold it for an accord...lol....the 350z is a nice car too but i didn't like it...it didn't fit me...the driving position seems like you're sitting too far back and i hate cars with long hoods....the evo ix just fits me perfectly....the seating position...the view of the road....the ergos of the pedals,steering wheel,shift knob.....all of it....i'm 5'9" so i'm sure someone that is over 6' would prolly like the z better...different cars fit different people...their driving style,height,etc...

 

Adding ATTESSA-ETS to a Fairlady Z would make no sense. G37X would cost about the same, has non-controversial good looks, much better interior and longer list of standard features, usable back seats, choice of two doors or four doors, benefit of Infiniti 'bend-over-for-you' service on top of Nissan reliability, all at the cost of about 200lbs, and perhaps wheel-base and steering ratio if you're going to knitpick.

The Z is in awkward position as Nissan had Silvia (240sx) which they are planning on bringing back, and currently has Skyline (Infiniti G35/G37) which is offered as RWD and AWD and also the GT-R, and they are clutching around with the idea of trying to bring back the 'soul' of a 240z instead of 280zx/300zx (I'm not saying these are bad cars but they served more as a Skyline than a Fairlady, in a Grand Tourer class)

Then there is platform and engine sharing, if you look at all the North American bound Infiniti/Nissan cars, maybe except Sentra and the trucks, pretty much all their cars share the two platforms (FM and FF-L) and the three engines (2.5, 3.5/3.7, 4.5/5.0)!

Not only is this a problem within the Nissan stable, think if you were to buy the car, right now in this economy. Would you pay 35-40k for a AWD 2-door fixed roof, with no room for sunroof, with no trunk space, that weighs about 3500-3600lbs? (don't forget the AWD system). You know, with the same money, you can be looking at Evo X, WRX STI, stripper C6 for the fun and fast cars, or if you don't mind sacrificing bit of power for comfort and prestige, you can also look at 3 series variants, A4 variants, TT variants, C class variants, IS variants, CTS variants, etc etc, this one of the most competitive price segment in automotive market. Nissan must be crazy to make such gamble right now, with themselves and other car companies cutting down labor and talking about loans and bankrupcy.

I think the Z is fine as it is, although they could have done better.

Back to the topic, both cars will be quick around road courses or in straight line, and the outcome would depend on the track size and layout, driver, tarmac condition and weather, when both are in stock form, for drag racing and 'high way' racing, the Z would have upper hands stock, given non-extreme conditions and that both drivers are comfortable with their cars. Both cars should respond well to mods, just that the Z would start out with a little more cost, due to V configuration of the engine (turbo'ing would mean two turbos, or two manifolds if staying NA, as long as you're not trying something wild) and also due to larger wheels and tires. Also there are more stuff to take out easily from the X than the Z.

 

I think you've been taken a little by all the hype from the X guys.. I've noticed that you started realizing the car's potential.. and the safety was the clincher for you.. It's a great car no doubt, and the ayc and chassis helps it be a better handling car out of the box than cars like the IX and STi, but there's fact, and there's hype, like that "factual" report from Mitsubishi when the car was first released.

the s-awc is not the end all for handling.. the ayc itself is even typically removed in competition for mechanical lsd's.. otherwise, it doesn't have anything other goodies that the 370z doesn't have.

 

I agree that the TL will be a decent competitor for the likes of BMW's 335i but an Evo will be faster in that situation, a 1.6 mile technical track is money in the bank.

The Evo X MR beat a BMW 135i around a lap of 2.74 mile track by 3.42 seconds. That is the lighter more agile better braking all around better performing little brother of the 335i.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/.../photo_12.html

Not to mention the Acura is wearing Michelin PS2s

 

Hmm good points.
I think the difference between the two tracks are great, and it was shown that the 135i is actually barely faster than a 335i on the same course (inside line article, forget which).

Of course not saying I think the TL would be faster, I think I was just noting another possible competitor as the Evo moves more upscale.

 

I still love my Evo X!!!!!

 

yeah, the safety issue for me has been a huge point of wanting to get the X. I most definitely love the looks of the Z and it would be VERY hard for me to choose if it wasn't for the Evo being fast, but also being more practical, as far as the awd, the 4 doors and seating for 4 or 5. The Z is a car i'll have to try and pick up when I get the Evo paid down, or off and just drive it once in a while. As far as the handling goes, I can't honestly say which would do better on the track which is why I had said that I would have a hard time believing the Z would be better. It will be interesting to see some track numbers.

I can't agree that i've really bought into the hype. I am going by real numbers from several tests that I have seen and read about and no that isn't the end all be all I agree, but I do know how well my IX handled, and the X has been shown to be seconds faster on many track situations. It will be interesting to see the numbers if they ever match them up in an unbiased situation.

 

Sorry I didn't mean any offense by that! I just meant to say I think most of the features on both cars that improve handling are similar, and a difference between s-awc/mainly ayc vs rwd is what we're looking at in that sense, and that we should question exactly how effective ayc is, especially compared to a 4wd with a mechanical rear lsd or rwd with lsd.

Either way, X FTW in terms of safety, practicality, modability etc... For track, I'm really quite excited to see what the 370z can do in the hands of a pro.
I think it can be 100% agreed upon that any normal driver will be able to go faster in an Evo X than in an STi, Evo IX, or any rwd sports coupe due to it's excellent s-awc = easier to drive quickly. But, I wonder, in the hands of a professional/excellent excellent driver, how much it plays in to helping actual speed instead of ease of driving compared to a traditional rwd or rwd + lsd

Good luck with your car man

 

Definitely no offense taken. I am also interested to see how the Z does on the track. I also agree that the AYC and so forth is excellent for your everyday driver, but I think a lot of the serious racing guys are taking most of the AYC and stuff out of the car anyway. The Z is definitely an impressive car however. I am planning to go to a local dealer to give one a test drive, just to say i've done it.

 

Just throw in an exhaust, fmic, fuel pump and get a flash and you will take him hands down bro.