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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 03:42 AM
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On a road course, there's a very good chance the 370Z with the optional suspension package would be out an unmodified X. The 370Z was benchmarked to the Cayman S. Go to Youtube and you'll find a video of a road course shootout in Japan with the Cayman S beating the EVO X, STI, and BMW 135i. I still like the X even though the 370Z exhaust has the sweetest exhaust note.
Yes, this true but it is sort of apples and oranges: the Cayman weighs 2987lbs@295 chp while the X is ~3500lbs@295 chp. Difficult to overcome >500lbs disadvantage. In short, the Cayman should not have been there under OEM trim. Give the X a tune and a few bolt on parts and it would be another story. That aside, the 370Z should have replaced the Cayman and then there would have been an interesting outcome.

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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 06:05 AM
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Don't forget, the Cayman is a pain in the butt and expensive to mod, let alone the question whether the mods do actually provide much benefit over an already superb and nicely balanced machine. It sucks for mid engine cars if the rear doesn't open up like clam shells in those GT1 cars.
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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just buy and 8 or 9 and destroy all
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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just buy and 8 or 9 and destroy all
LMAO @ You... seriously... who are you convincing?

A stock X has been shown TIME and time again to beat a stock IX on closed tracks (no a track DOES not refer to a drag course - I mean a real track)... seriously... find another place to go justify your own inadequacies ....
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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I'm debating what I want too, Evo or 370Z. Came back from the dealer in Alhambra, CA. They want 10K over MSP! Damn dealerships. I asked how much they would go down... only 5k, so 5k over MSP. No wonder they said they sold zero so far!
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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^ in brooklyn, NY, a Nissan dealer by my house, has a silver 370Z on the floor, selling for MSRP. they also have a red GTR, selling for just $8k over msrp
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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If you recall they did same for the X when it first came out (at least here on the east coast). But in this economy, I would say those Nissan dealerships have ***** and I mean big ones to ask that much over MSRP!

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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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well just 2 months ago (smack in the middle of the Recession), nissan dealers were asking, and getting, $25k over MSRP on GTR's
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Shabarivas
LMAO @ You... seriously... who are you convincing?

A stock X has been shown TIME and time again to beat a stock IX on closed tracks (no a track DOES not refer to a drag course - I mean a real track)... seriously... find another place to go justify your own inadequacies ....
I have yet to see stock vs. stock an X beat an IX around a road course with a pro driver driven back to back. (both being USDM models)
Old Jan 13, 2009 | 06:56 AM
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Why does everyone insist on buying a car from their neighborhood dealership? You are obviously familiar with the internet, so buy the car wherever it is the least expensive. You can have it shipped for a few $100's (I shipped a car from NY to IN for $435). Or even better, fly out to pick up the car and have the road trip of your life; I bought a car in Miami, FL and drove it back to Austin, TX I never stopped once and I never stopped loving the car.

Ooops - this was off topic - sorry
Old Jan 13, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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Just hold off for a couple of months. The car will only be "HOT" until they get more on the lots and then you won't be paying a such a premium. The Evo has always been a low volume car, so dealers would always play the "Market Adjustment" card and charge way over sticker. The Z on the other hand is a mass produced sports car. It's always a hot seller when the new version comes out, but after 6 months or so it starts to go down fast.

I too want to get the 370z and have test driven it. Trust me I want it right now, but the sensible side of me says wait for the 2nd maybe even 3rd year. That way all the bugs are out of it, the demand is way down, so no mark ups. Also by the 3rd year there's always a refresh, maybe with a little bit of interior or exterior upgrades as well as a minor power tweek.
Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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^ Good post. I agree.
Old Jan 13, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete3kGT
Just hold off for a couple of months. The car will only be "HOT" until they get more on the lots and then you won't be paying a such a premium. The Evo has always been a low volume car, so dealers would always play the "Market Adjustment" card and charge way over sticker. The Z on the other hand is a mass produced sports car. It's always a hot seller when the new version comes out, but after 6 months or so it starts to go down fast.

I too want to get the 370z and have test driven it. Trust me I want it right now, but the sensible side of me says wait for the 2nd maybe even 3rd year. That way all the bugs are out of it, the demand is way down, so no mark ups. Also by the 3rd year there's always a refresh, maybe with a little bit of interior or exterior upgrades as well as a minor power tweek.
The negative however is that they may decide to change programming on the ecu or even make it harder to use aftermarket parts.
Old Jan 13, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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i was on the same plan on getting a 370z however just to try to turbo these cars it take a small fortune! 8-10k for a twin turbo!! so idk im kinda rethinking it all and leaning again more to the Evo side...
Old Jan 14, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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put it this way.... i wanted an evo X, and a 370z... i drove the Z and LOVED it, but think of this.... It will end up just like the 350z, and everyone's daughter and grandma will drive one, so stick with the EVO, yes the 370 is sexy, but its TOO COMMON



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