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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 07:42 AM
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Murlo, been reading thru the thread and the other black build thread. lots of good info man. im trying to get into a 10 and my build is gonna be almost identical to yours. i was wondering exactly what let go on the original motor? was it a rod that went that took piston and block with it? or piston that took everything with it? also how much boost were you running when it let go? i think i read 25psi on the red. thanks for the info man, and good luck with the rest of your build and results.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by purevibez
Murlo, been reading thru the thread and the other black build thread. lots of good info man. im trying to get into a 10 and my build is gonna be almost identical to yours. i was wondering exactly what let go on the original motor? was it a rod that went that took piston and block with it? or piston that took everything with it? also how much boost were you running when it let go? i think i read 25psi on the red. thanks for the info man, and good luck with the rest of your build and results.
It looks like the rod probably did the whole S shape deal when they bend then when I went to boost it snapped and went through the block. Pretty sure the torque i was running killed the motor, 33psi on the red...which is roughly 450ish wtq.

So we believe the rod failed and took the block with it...and in turn the piston split up.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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got it. thanks for the intel sir.

so have we found the weak point in the 4b11t yet? rods? pistons? sleeves? im a 46g3 guy (lots of early evo's, 3-4-8-9 and eclipse's) trying to expand my knowledge base since im trying to get in a 10 here real soon, you seem to be one of the resident experts.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 08:13 AM
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The sleeves have shown to hold a lot of abuse, ETS is running stock sleeves at over 800whp.

Stock crank on that car too.

Honestly the 4b11 is pretty similar in power holding to the 4g63. It is still pretty early to tell as there haven't been many failures reported yet.

I would say the rods torque holding level might be a bit lower than the 4g63, but not by much.

Playing it safe, the power levels are very similar that both can handle.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 08:13 AM
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Ps I am no expert, lol. I just read and collect data and process it in the noodle


Well and do testing myself with my car.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 08:33 AM
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my dad always told me "dont re-invent the wheel, learn from the wheels that have already rolled by and improve your own wheel" you have the best "wheel" right now to learn from. we are in the same boat, i read and collect data and plan my builds very carefully based on proven results (like your build)

last question and ill leave you alone for a few hours, lol. headstuds? were you running them when you were at 33psi on the red? or 25psi?
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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Stock block completely when I ran 33psi. The stock headstuds seem to hold up pretty well on the 4b11's. I think people have take them up to 40psi. I honestly haven't heard of any heads lifting on the 4b11 yet.

I will have ARP's on the new build though because I needed news ones.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 09:17 AM
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nice, thanks man. i appreciate the time and answers. staying tuned for the rest of your build. good luck
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 09:58 AM
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your not done yet? lol lets get it going.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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your not done yet? lol lets get it going.
Sigh...no.

Still waiting...could be done Friday...well driveable But highly doubtful.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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Im thinking of going with kelford cams with my black turbo. Unless yours make good number. Then i will go with the same cam you did. Good luck. Keep us posted.. Im break boosting my black about 4200rpm and about 4500 full spool. cant wait to see were yours spools at.

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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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nice build man!!! whens do you think shes gonna be ready?
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 04:18 PM
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nice build man!!! whens do you think shes gonna be ready?
Hopefully Friday Unlikely though...probably next week though...
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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Excelent can't wait!!!!!!!
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 07:52 PM
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I vote September.

Just kidding man. It sucks that you had to go most of the summer without it. Cause we all know the snow will fly soon in Minn-e-soda, 'eh? Don't ya know?
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