Wow that's pretty insane if you can list them that easily. You an infinity mechanic?

 

I've been working on Nissan and Infinity cars for 7 years now. it's all i ever worked on. I do custom fab on any cars. inter cooler piping exhaust and so on. but nissan is what i devoted my life to until late 2010.

i have close friends that are master tech's at different Nissan dealers in socal, and have close relations with several most Nissan Shops in SoCal. you can Google my Screen name i am very popular among the 240sx & Drifting Community. right now I sponsored and am putting together a 1993 S13 with a Starion Swap. he will be driving Formula Drift ProAm 2011/2012 and I will be competing in several time attack events on my Street / Daily Driven Evo X. I am waiting on the forum to reply with the terms for forum vendor account. but I am already developing Upper intercooler piping, lower intercooler piping, new FMIC cores and just get the ball rolling from there. I hope you guys will like and appreciate my services to the Evo / Mitsubishi Community.

/thread jack.

 

No offense , but this is tells more about your limits vs the cars fault.

I'm sure you will be much happier in the G , since you will discover the car limits much sooner , so you will be a better one between both of you.

As i used to say , shamelessly quote myself here :
"Amongst the blind, the one eyed one is the king"


PS: Sorry, i had to say it , since your explanation became nice and slowly an Evo bashing thread vs a real boring and fast outdated car. Which is reminds me a VTEC vs EVO threads.


Press on

Rob

 

I'm not sure I understand why everybody is ripping on Webman so hard. Clearly the guy had a bad experience with his Evo so how can you blame him for getting rid of it?? I love driving my Evo but I've also dealt with a lot of garbage issues with this car that I never dealt with with any of my previous cars. Yes I bought mine used, but I've bought every car I've ever owned used and never dealt with anywhere near the amount of problems I've had with the Evo. However, I also understand that the Evo is a high performance machine and with that typically comes higher cost and more frequent maintenance. Nonetheless, I still don't understand some of the weak issues that this car has like why the paint chips so easily and why the stupid thermostat knob is so hard to turn, etc.. Those aren't things that I would expect from a car that stickers for over $35K brand new. Some of you act like the Evo was the greatest car ever built?? While the Evo has a lot of strong points and great things that can be said about it, I don't personally think that qaulity and reliability are at the top of that list. The bottomline is, no one buys an Evo for it's reliability record! You can blame that on several factors (modding, driving styles, Mitsu production, etc) but the fact is, people don't buy an Evo because they think it will last forever.

 

well actually the evo as a performance car is pretty reliable compare to others, def. does not have a bad reputation at all...

Like we dont have to deal with falling roof offs like the Vettes etc... Lambos burning down - GT -40 wont start etc .and those are not exactly ~40 K cars on "crappy" base...
Only thing is the Evo needs is a good maintenance. And bought new, so no one at a dealer ship beat the hell out of it or a previous owner. The first 500 miles is very crucial.
A reason i changed my attitude , since i feel he started actually bad mouthing the evo. Which is its oke , but on the G37 forum.

I dont go there to bashing them, i have a mutual respect.

 

Yeah I'm not saying that Evos have a bad rep for reliability necessarily, all I'm saying is that they don't have a good one either, and that's not why people buy the car. People buy Accords and Camrys because they're known to be reliable, not Evos. Furthermore, those cars can still be very reliable even without "good maintenance." I put that in qoutes cuz I'm not sure what that means after owning the Evo. I've taken just as good of, if not better, care of my Evo than any of my previous cars and the Evo has definitely required a lot more attention than anything I've ever owned. And again I'm not talking about just performance parts here either (i.e. bolts coming loose on the sunroof motor ).

FWIW, I previously owned a '93 Infiniti G20 that was still going strong with 215,000 miles on it the day I totalled it. I bought the car with 150K on it and the only maintenance I did in the 3+ years I owned it was replace a clutch, a water pump, and a bad injector. Plus, I abused that car a lot more than I do my Evo. I'm not saying the Evo won't last 215,000 but to get it that far is going to take a lot more "good maintenance" than what my G20 required.

 

But the thing is, you don't know what was done to that car before you bought it. You'd be surprised what an Evo can do to even the most casual driver. As you're probably aware, the Evo takes a much higher degree of maintenance than a Camry or Accord. There is a lot more moving parts, at a much higher rpm. An Evo needs someone that is willing to look it over constantly and watch for any sign of an upcoming issue.

This is why it's important to try and buy an Evo new or at least stock. At least you have some sort of idea what the car has been through. And a new one completely removes that out of the equation. Can parts fail? Sure. But in my experience, it's quite rare with Evos unless they are abused.

 

True. But the same could be said for all of the other used cars I've bought as well.

Also very true but a number of the issues I've had weren't at all related to high performance parts such as the bolts that fell out of my sunroof motor, the freeze plug on the water pump that blew out, and the rust that's forming in various locations from rock chips due to cheap paint and primer, etc.

It sounds like the OP tried to do like you said and get one that was almost new and also stock but that didn't seem to help him with the issues he was having including the bad customer service.
One positive thing I will say in regards to reliability is that I'm very impressed with the amount of abuse that the drivetrain can withstand and especially the motor! There aren't a lot of motors out there that can pump out close to and over 100hp per cylinder and still run for 100,000+ miles like I've seen many on here doing. It just seems like it's all of the little things that go wrong that I find very annoying.

 

no bashing on the guy. he bought a used evo and had problems with it. gl with your g37.

 

You can't compere a DD economy car vs a performance car in reilability or maintanence. Apples and oranges.
You should compare perdfomance car vs performance car at a close price or class range.

The toyota camry and so , has nothing to do with this convesation.

 

One bad Evo doesn't equal all Evos bad. I had a major issue with my 2010 Subie, they bought it back. I don't hate Subie now, I'm actually thankful for them opening up my eyes to Evo. And I'll buy another Subie. But for now, I'll keep driving my "kids car"...at 41 yrs old.

 

Lols if you think the Infiniti paint will be any better, I had a G35 and let me tell you, it sure as hell is not

 

its actually worse lol I had my Z33 fender rolled and the paint cracked all around the edge of the fender.

 

I think one issue is that you got "more car" than you bargained for. I'm 38 next month, and I don't care if kids want to street race me; I'll ignore them. But you have to understand that the Evo is a hardcore performance car guy's car. The guys that really love this car could never love a G37, because it is so soft in comparison. Few buy an Evo to keep it stock, and with less than $1k invested, it will flat out humiliate a G35 in any contest of speed by an enormous margin.

In the dealership's only defense, they didn't have a manual to "de-mod" the car, because they didn't know what was wrong with it. That P1235 you had proves there was a problem with the tune or the boost lines that needed to be addressed. Any competent tuner could diagnose the boost issue and turn that stupid code off permanently.

I do think you got shafted, man, and I am very sorry for that. You were told by the dealer that the car had nothing other than springs, and they didn't back you when that proved false. But to me, that's the fault of the dealership taking that car in trade and not backing it when they offered it for sale, not Mitsu corporate's fault. That dealership just flat out messed up.

If the Evo was not available in the USA, I would go inline 6 turbo BMW again, so much more performance potential than the Infiniti. To me, the G37 is a catch all car that is propped up py platform sharing, and it's a bag of compromises to a performance car enthusiast. For peppy normal transportation with reliability, it should be just great, but pardon those of us on the site that see that as boring.

All the best to you, sir.

 

Couldn't have said it any better.