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Old Dec 28, 2016 | 01:13 PM
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These FE's aren't selling well I tell ya. I say if you can get a new pre 2015 evo, ideally a new 14 with recaros do it.

I have an FE but when you are in it, it feels like you sitting in a lancer because of the seats. Not to say when you get these cars, the service from the company is crap. When you mod, any warrany claim will be a hard fought battle (im in one right now).
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Old Dec 28, 2016 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by moparfan
The aftermarket is fully developed. The makers of these parts will slowly bow out over time though because the market will keep shrinking.

I think the aftermarket was betting on the Focus RS to be THAT car that would be the heir to the crown, but RS availability has put a big crimp in that for now.
That and the US RS is a two year run. At least the X had a 7 (or 8) year run, so
still worth making even new parts for it, for the near future.

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The ford ecoboost engines have been less-than-optimal to say the least. Even their comparison commercial on YouTube said the evo didn't handle like any of the other cars (focus RS, Golf R, STI), that it was more in the GTR's territory. Maybe the focus will get better with time but I'm skeptical since none of fords boosted engines have much going for them.
Didn't a 2.3 eco mustang run 11.1 @ 125 already with over 600 torque?

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Old Dec 28, 2016 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by rognasty
These FE's aren't selling well I tell ya. I say if you can get a new pre 2015 evo, ideally a new 14 with recaros do it.
I had been curious about the feasibility of buying an Evo X FE in Canada and bringing it here -- theirs has the Recaros (and with the red stitching, so it would match) and also the MR's BBS wheels in the same finish (as opposed to ours having the GSR's Enkeis). But I wasn't too serious, so I didn't do much beyond posting about the idea. The pricing wasn't bad either, when you convert the currency.

Originally Posted by rognasty
I have an FE but when you are in it, it feels like you sitting in a lancer because of the seats. Not to say when you get these cars, the service from the company is crap. When you mod, any warrany claim will be a hard fought battle (im in one right now).
Yeah, the seats are really bad. It's always been something that reviewers ragged on, especially if they had test driven the previous models.

Warranty claims with Mitsubishi are always a pain... luckily my car was always bone stock, but I even got told by the service advisor that my car had to be stock... and I was there asking about a replacement fuel door clip. Thankfully they did not make me pay for the $3 part
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Old Dec 28, 2016 | 06:57 PM
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At the very least, in lieu of not bothering of retrofitting the Recaros with airbags, Mitsu could have included a sun roof, or a better head unit, or a telescoping steering wheel, or something.

Hell, how about a passenger seat that can be lowered?! Yeah, I know, it's only 2015, too much to ask. The interior does not match the exterior, nor does the high up seating position. Fells like you're driving a panel van.
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Old Dec 28, 2016 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fafaforza
At the very least, in lieu of not bothering of retrofitting the Recaros with airbags, Mitsu could have included a sun roof, or a better head unit, or a telescoping steering wheel, or something.
At the "very least"? Not likely. For such a relatively low volume car, it's not worth the hassle of them doing any of those things. You can't just put airbags in those Recaros; it's going to require a whole redesign, one that isn't going to do them any good when it's only for one model year. (Think back to the Evo IXs, when they just made an extended run of 2006s for the US while the rest of the world got 2007s, because the car wouldn't have met a certain regulation that went into effect for the 2007s and later years. Obviously the Evo X met it.) A sunroof is really only going to deteriorate handling but not necessarily at the benefit of clawing back a bunch of sales, plus it would reduce headroom for taller drivers.
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 06:00 AM
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The recaro's already had airbags. They didn't want to update them to 2015 standards...
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83
At the "very least"? Not likely. For such a relatively low volume car, it's not worth the hassle of them doing any of those things. You can't just put airbags in those Recaros; it's going to require a whole redesign, one that isn't going to do them any good when it's only for one model year. (Think back to the Evo IXs, when they just made an extended run of 2006s for the US while the rest of the world got 2007s, because the car wouldn't have met a certain regulation that went into effect for the 2007s and later years. Obviously the Evo X met it.) A sunroof is really only going to deteriorate handling but not necessarily at the benefit of clawing back a bunch of sales, plus it would reduce headroom for taller drivers.
Well doesn't the Canadian model have the sunroof? And they started worrying about handling when most models pre-2015 had them.

As far as head room, they could easily take care of that by positioning the seat where you feel like you're "in" the car, not "on" it. Besides, I'm 6'2" and have plenty of headroom. And I had plenty in my VIII with a sunroof.

My point is that they took a lot away in the 2015 models. So no wonder a lot of them are sitting on the lots. If you'll be that lazy and just take things away without adding anything while keeping the price unchanged, then why even bother with a 2015.
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
The recaro's already had airbags. They didn't want to update them to 2015 standards...
Whoops, you're right. My mistake.

Originally Posted by fafaforza
Well doesn't the Canadian model have the sunroof? And they started worrying about handling when most models pre-2015 had them.

As far as head room, they could easily take care of that by positioning the seat where you feel like you're "in" the car, not "on" it. Besides, I'm 6'2" and have plenty of headroom. And I had plenty in my VIII with a sunroof.

My point is that they took a lot away in the 2015 models. So no wonder a lot of them are sitting on the lots. If you'll be that lazy and just take things away without adding anything while keeping the price unchanged, then why even bother with a 2015.
I agree with Mitsubishi being lazy -- you are 100% right about that. Only Subaru has been arguably lazier with their STI.

I'll admit that for whatever reason, my memory of Evo Xs has been a little hazy -- I forgot that the Evo X Recaros did already have airbags (just not meeting the 2015 standards, as the previous poster mentioned) and that there was a sunroof available in certain models (i.e. MR Touring).

My point was that while your ideas would at least mix things up a bit and give consumers more options, logistically it's not worth it to Mitsubishi, in terms of the effort it would take (i.e. time and money) to do it, against what their ROI would be, which likely wouldn't be much. I doubt there are thousands of people holding off on Evos because they can't get a sunroof in the exact trim level that they are considering.

I always had a sunroof in my three cars prior to owning an Evo, and while at first I wasn't thrilled that I wouldn't have one, I ended up not caring when I bought my first Evo (a IX) and when I bought my second one (a IX SE).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against variety, but in the case of the U.S.-spec Evos and the market for them, it probably isn't of much benefit to Mitsubishi. Personally, I liked how few models there were when I bought my IXs, since I wasn't worried about little options and could find the exact one in the exact color I wanted really easily. The more trim levels and options you get, it's more difficult, especially for a car produced in such small numbers and with a dealer network so small.
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by fafaforza
At the very least, in lieu of not bothering of retrofitting the Recaros with airbags, Mitsu could have included a sun roof, or a better head unit, or a telescoping steering wheel, or something.

Hell, how about a passenger seat that can be lowered?! Yeah, I know, it's only 2015, too much to ask. The interior does not match the exterior, nor does the high up seating position. Fells like you're driving a panel van.
No use complaining about it. The Evo X is what it is in terms of build quality. I'm OK with the build quality as the only creature comforts I need is power windows and AC.

The lack of Recaros is a bad deal but the regular seats are comfortable for a six hour drive...At least for my ***.
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 11:53 AM
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well it really depends on what you're looking for . I own a canadian version of the FE you get the recaro seats . And its quicker than a regular Evo it is also quicker than a sti a golf r and a focus rs who are mitsu biggest competitors so if your looking to out perform these cars go for it but if you are looking just the fun to drive part then buy a regular evo there is no big difference you can slightly very slightly feel the acceleration difference but slightly then i again thats because i owned a Evo before that my friends don't feel the difference

http://www.caranddriver.com/mitsubishi/lancer-evolution
http://www.caranddriver.com/ford/focus-rs
http://www.caranddriver.com/volkswagen/golf-r
http://www.caranddriver.com/subaru/wrx-sti

Evo FE 0-60 4.4 - 1/4 mile 13.3
Focus rs 0-60 4.6 - 1/4 mile 13.4
Wrx sti 0-60 4.7 - 1/4 mile 13.3
Golf r 0-60 5.2 - 1/4 mile 13.7


They are making a new r though with 305 hp Golf says it does 0-60 in 4.6 don't know about the 1/4 mile though
So as you can see the acceleration difference is minimal
In my opinion you get a FE if your a Die hard Evo fan as i am if not just get a regular Evo or some other ride

I had mine for 3 months i got it new haven't had any problems but then a again its brand new so cant really take my word for it lol
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by moparfan
No use complaining about it. The Evo X is what it is in terms of build quality.
I'm fine with the build quality. It's worlds quieter and softer than my VIII, I'm just struggling to find a comfy/sporty seating position. A telescoping wheel would have helped a LOT, or even spacers that you manually install. A lot of people have been complaining about the same for years. Would have been a nice send off to have some custom machining done. Oh well
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 02:08 PM
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I find the X (with Recaros of course) comfortable as hell. 6-8 hour trips, no problem.
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