Rotas for track use.
Jun 6, 2011, 09:42 PM
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My problem with Rota is that they use an established companies design and in turn the established company could lose business to people buying up the Rota's so cheap instead of saving up for the real thing. I agree with Frankiago, leave the Rota's, Konig's and Sportmaxx for the showcars.
Jun 8, 2011, 05:44 PM
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Here are my credentials:
And here are my two cents:
Everything that has been said with regards to Enkei RPF1's being awesome and extremely widely used by Evos is true.
Nothing about Rota's racing heritage is true.
I have a set of Advan RZ's as my DD wheels, RPF1's are about a pound lighter and .5" wider (for the particular sets I am comparing).
I hit raised aprons 4 or 5 times yesterday and did not even give a single ounce of worry about whether or not my wheel is going to hold up, instead I was focused on how much that's going to throw off my exit speed.
Stop defending Rotas, they are only good for budget show cars. Get 95% of the look at 25% of the price that's all they are designed for. That is it. For that, they are good. Do not put them on any kind of pedestal, especially if that pedestal is anywhere near the pedestal Enkeis, Advans, Volks, etc rest on.
For ****'s sake, look into CCW's for performance, just don't put "Rota" and "track" in the same, positive sentence. It should be a negative sentence with strong emotions
And here are my two cents:
Everything that has been said with regards to Enkei RPF1's being awesome and extremely widely used by Evos is true.
Nothing about Rota's racing heritage is true.
I have a set of Advan RZ's as my DD wheels, RPF1's are about a pound lighter and .5" wider (for the particular sets I am comparing).
I hit raised aprons 4 or 5 times yesterday and did not even give a single ounce of worry about whether or not my wheel is going to hold up, instead I was focused on how much that's going to throw off my exit speed.
Stop defending Rotas, they are only good for budget show cars. Get 95% of the look at 25% of the price that's all they are designed for. That is it. For that, they are good. Do not put them on any kind of pedestal, especially if that pedestal is anywhere near the pedestal Enkeis, Advans, Volks, etc rest on.
For ****'s sake, look into CCW's for performance, just don't put "Rota" and "track" in the same, positive sentence. It should be a negative sentence with strong emotions
I hit curbs, aprons, dibs, holes with no problem on my DPTs. I'm not putting Rotas on a pedestal, I simply don't agree with statements like "they're only good for show cars."
Jun 9, 2011, 12:21 PM
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We'd suggest sticking with the stock enkei's which are really strong to begin with and you can easily up the tire up to 265, or if you save up a little more you can get something light weight and really strong like the Enkei RPF1, NT03 +m or the PF01.
Enkei's has incredible strength in their wheels and they are real light too.
As for Rota, I do know a couple teams that run them like the GST Subaru which runs Unlimited AWD, which shows that they can handle some abuse. however my two cents on it is remember that hard track driving for a couple days a year are nothing compared to the abuse of daily driving on bad road conditions. 90% of race tracks out there are maintained well and the road themselves are infinitely better in condition than all the crappy freeways out there so stress on the wheel is minimal as there are not many major gradient changes other than when you dip your tire bad in the dirt. Hit a really bad pot hole hard most wheels would bend, but remember that there really is a difference in strength due to material and manufacturing process, but the investment is really up to you.
Enkei's has incredible strength in their wheels and they are real light too.
As for Rota, I do know a couple teams that run them like the GST Subaru which runs Unlimited AWD, which shows that they can handle some abuse. however my two cents on it is remember that hard track driving for a couple days a year are nothing compared to the abuse of daily driving on bad road conditions. 90% of race tracks out there are maintained well and the road themselves are infinitely better in condition than all the crappy freeways out there so stress on the wheel is minimal as there are not many major gradient changes other than when you dip your tire bad in the dirt. Hit a really bad pot hole hard most wheels would bend, but remember that there really is a difference in strength due to material and manufacturing process, but the investment is really up to you.
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Jun 9, 2011, 05:27 PM
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Buy whatever wheel you wish. Everyone has a personal preference. I think it's funny how you can't even get hold of a set of rotas grids from wheeldude because they sell out in a heart beat. If rotas were as bad as people say they are, I wonder why do people continue to buy them. The enkei's are commonly used and good, but at the end of the day buy a wheel you're happy with. It's not worth going into debt over wheels.
Jun 9, 2011, 06:45 PM
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Never had a problem with my Rota Grids yet.. and I drive on Michigan roads. I've pushed the car to the limits just as in a track condition, even hitting potholes.. zero problems. Several 'failed rota' pictures go around the web from people hitting curbs at 60mph and it ruins the reputation. Give me a Rays or Enkei and I can do the same kind of damage to it.
Jun 9, 2011, 08:51 PM
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Volk users will always be hating Rota because of the fact that Rota stole the original designs that Rays/Volks spent endless amount of R&D to produce what it is today. If you want to wake up one day when all the true innovators are gone and there's only china/taiwan/Philippine wheels manufacturer that rips off other manufacturers design , by all means , support Rota.
Have some dignity and integrity when you mod your car. I'm sure all you Volks haters will jump on a set of TE37 over those Grids anytime if you had the money. Cmon man , save up for it and do it the right way.
I'm not bagging Rota cause their bad in performance, i'm bagging them cause of the fact that they stole great wheel designs like the TE37 and CE28N. If your on a budget , look at work wheels. Their amazing and the fitments they offer will suit the X easily.
Have some dignity and integrity when you mod your car. I'm sure all you Volks haters will jump on a set of TE37 over those Grids anytime if you had the money. Cmon man , save up for it and do it the right way.
I'm not bagging Rota cause their bad in performance, i'm bagging them cause of the fact that they stole great wheel designs like the TE37 and CE28N. If your on a budget , look at work wheels. Their amazing and the fitments they offer will suit the X easily.
Jun 9, 2011, 10:35 PM
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Bent my "baller" advan RG on ONE track event (i didnt even go off)
Next event after fixing then found one cracked and one bent..........
Enkei Nt03+M have been 2 seasons of Time attack, been off, curbs , drop wheels off and slammed back on, etc One is "bent" a bit but you cant tell and it still fine....
Rotas are on plenty of my competitor/ friends cars and have 0 issues.
I vote Enkei or Rota for the cheap wheels, beware of Advan they arae soooooft
as you can see sometimes i clip a curb or 2
Next event after fixing then found one cracked and one bent..........
Enkei Nt03+M have been 2 seasons of Time attack, been off, curbs , drop wheels off and slammed back on, etc One is "bent" a bit but you cant tell and it still fine....
Rotas are on plenty of my competitor/ friends cars and have 0 issues.
I vote Enkei or Rota for the cheap wheels, beware of Advan they arae soooooft
as you can see sometimes i clip a curb or 2
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Jun 10, 2011, 01:07 PM
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Volk users will always be hating Rota because of the fact that Rota stole the original designs that Rays/Volks spent endless amount of R&D to produce what it is today. If you want to wake up one day when all the true innovators are gone and there's only china/taiwan/Philippine wheels manufacturer that rips off other manufacturers design , by all means , support Rota.
Have some dignity and integrity when you mod your car. I'm sure all you Volks haters will jump on a set of TE37 over those Grids anytime if you had the money. Cmon man , save up for it and do it the right way.
I'm not bagging Rota cause their bad in performance, i'm bagging them cause of the fact that they stole great wheel designs like the TE37 and CE28N. If your on a budget , look at work wheels. Their amazing and the fitments they offer will suit the X easily.
Have some dignity and integrity when you mod your car. I'm sure all you Volks haters will jump on a set of TE37 over those Grids anytime if you had the money. Cmon man , save up for it and do it the right way.
I'm not bagging Rota cause their bad in performance, i'm bagging them cause of the fact that they stole great wheel designs like the TE37 and CE28N. If your on a budget , look at work wheels. Their amazing and the fitments they offer will suit the X easily.