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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MSP608
What are we looking at? Your slightly darkened calipers? Not exactly black or brownbo's.

I hit curbs, aprons, dibs, holes with no problem on my DPTs. I'm not putting Rotas on a pedestal, I simply don't agree with statements like "they're only good for show cars."
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Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing..
One track day, that's what you're looking at. Wheels still flawless after hitting some raised aprons throughout the day.

(I made no mention of the calipers, you seemed to have assumed)
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Frankiago
One track day, that's what you're looking at. Wheels still flawless after hitting some raised aprons throughout the day.

(I made no mention of the calipers, you seemed to have assumed)
What everyone is trying to tell you is that to think that a Rota Wheel would not have held up just as well is foolish.
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by gsrboi80
What everyone is trying to tell you is that to think that a Rota Wheel would not have held up just as well is foolish.
What I'm trying to tell you is that this wheel is lighter than its Rota equivalent and costs not much more at all. If you'd like to argue the brand quality between Enkei and Rota, feel free.

Then please name a single OEM Rota serves... show me Rally teams who use Rotas, etc.

Personally, all I've seen is Time Attack shop cars and car meet guys.
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankiago
One track day, that's what you're looking at. Wheels still flawless after hitting some raised aprons throughout the day.

(I made no mention of the calipers, you seemed to have assumed)
Okay... Want me to show you pics of my Rotas that have been through a year and a half of tracking/racing, bumps, dips, wall? Other than some marbles still stuck to them, they're still flawless as well.

Originally Posted by Frankiago
What I'm trying to tell you is that this wheel is lighter than its Rota equivalent and costs not much more at all. If you'd like to argue the brand quality between Enkei and Rota, feel free.

Then please name a single OEM Rota serves... show me Rally teams who use Rotas, etc.

Personally, all I've seen is Time Attack shop cars and car meet guys.
I wouldn't say it costs "not much more at all" I was able to get three sets of DPTs for what two sets of RPF1s cost. If money wasn't a problem hell yeah I'd go for the Enkeis, but I needed three sets and couldn't swing it.

Yes the majority of Rota owners don't track their cars or anything, but I feel like the ones I do see out on track have no problems.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Frankiago
What I'm trying to tell you is that this wheel is lighter than its Rota equivalent and costs not much more at all. If you'd like to argue the brand quality between Enkei and Rota, feel free.

Then please name a single OEM Rota serves... show me Rally teams who use Rotas, etc.

Personally, all I've seen is Time Attack shop cars and car meet guys.
You really don't get it do you. What you just responded with has nothing to do with my comment AT ALL.

You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him think. Oh well
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 02:02 PM
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Yes, please show pictures of said Rotas. I could not care less, but please do anyways

gsrboi, it addresses what you replied with specifically.
Originally Posted by Frankiago
If you'd like to argue the brand quality between Enkei and Rota, feel free.
That's exactly what you were getting at, brand quality.

Rotas have a tendency to crack and/or break rather than bend. I have seen plenty of pictures of broken/cracked/snapped-spoke Rotas. Granted, I have seen a few examples of bent Rotas, but there's something to be said about their alloys and casting processes if the failures are usually brittle instead of ductile.

Again, gsrboi, we can argue brand quality until this horse who apparently doesn't think is blue in the face, but it will get neither of us nor the community anywhere.

A set of decent Rotas will run ~$1000 shipped from WheelDude, and a set of RPF1's will run ~$1300 shipped from many vendors. PF01's are very similar in price and maybe even cheaper, not sure what NT-03's will cost, never priced them out.
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankiago
Yes, please show pictures of said Rotas. I could not care less, but please do anyways

gsrboi, it addresses what you replied with specifically.
That's exactly what you were getting at, brand quality.

Rotas have a tendency to crack and/or break rather than bend. I have seen plenty of pictures of broken/cracked/snapped-spoke Rotas. Granted, I have seen a few examples of bent Rotas, but there's something to be said about their alloys and casting processes if the failures are usually brittle instead of ductile.

Again, gsrboi, we can argue brand quality until this horse who apparently doesn't think is blue in the face, but it will get neither of us nor the community anywhere.

A set of decent Rotas will run ~$1000 shipped from WheelDude, and a set of RPF1's will run ~$1300 shipped from many vendors. PF01's are very similar in price and maybe even cheaper, not sure what NT-03's will cost, never priced them out.
$1300 shipped? lol i'd find a new vender if i was you because u can get them for cheaper, yes shipped, from many other venders
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 02:28 PM
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$1300 shipped? lol i'd find a new vender if i was you because u can get them for cheaper, yes shipped, from many other venders
17" or 18"

This is the Evo X section.
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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gtfo! it's funny how some people think that volks, works, advans etc are losing business b/c rota does a replica of their wheel. People buy rotas over legit wheels mainly b/c of their pricing, even without rota's knockoffs those people wouldn't be buying volks since their on a tight budget in the first place or just can't justify spending 3k-4k on a set of wheels. i like rotas for dd but enkei or oz's for track.
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MSP608
Okay... Want me to show you pics of my Rotas that have been through a year and a half of tracking/racing, bumps, dips, wall? Other than some marbles still stuck to them, they're still flawless as well.



I wouldn't say it costs "not much more at all" I was able to get three sets of DPTs for what two sets of RPF1s cost. If money wasn't a problem hell yeah I'd go for the Enkeis, but I needed three sets and couldn't swing it.

Yes the majority of Rota owners don't track their cars or anything, but I feel like the ones I do see out on track have no problems.
i think we have to elaborate the "track use" terms a little bit more, to make it clear for every one what is that really means when it comes down to Rota wheels..
so we dont get too much confusion here.

and would end the debate.
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 02:59 PM
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I've seen a CTS-V tear up the local auto-x on some rota wheels. Obviously it's not tracking but still...just my 2 cents
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by speedxthree
even without rota's knockoffs those people wouldn't be buying volks since their on a tight budget in the first place or just can't justify spending 3k-4k on a set of wheels. i like rotas for dd but enkei or oz's for track.
I do agree with this 100%

Rota is not "stealing business." That business would never have been Volks' in the first place.
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by linjy2
17" or 18"

This is the Evo X section.
18x9.5 +27 NT03 shipped w/ centercaps and valve stems came out to a little under $1200 for me :P
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TougeGod7
18x9.5 +27 NT03 shipped w/ centercaps and valve stems came out to a little under $1200 for me :P
I don't think anybody (save TougeGod7) is buying NT-03's, they're at blowout prices

But on a serious note, I checked with 6 vendors on PF01 and RPF1 price quotes. Ended up paying just a bit more for the special gunmetal finish instead of silver or black (and now somebody's got blue in stock).
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 06:41 PM
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We're beating a dead horse here, but I'll chime in.

I've owned 3 sets of Rota Wheels and one set of RPF1's. All of them saw lots of DD - plenty of nasty Vermont potholes, lots getting sideways on the infinite gravel roads here, Autocross, and a couple track days. NONE of these wheels ever got bent or damaged in any way...other than a few paint chips and curb rash.

Rota wheels will be completely fine for 99% of people on this forum. Would I put them on a race car if I had one? probably not. But If I did, I wouln't be worried about them failing, I'd just want something lighter.

In my opinion, they're the best bang for your buck you can get.... I don't know about you, but I'd never waste $3k+ on a set of wheels, unless I was filthy rich. I wouldn't doubt it if there are more Rota owners on this site that see track time with their cars compared to the guys with their trendy designer Volk or Advan wheels who are too scared to get a scratch on them.

If you're on a budget, like most people, get a set of Rota's - they'll be fine for whatever you put them through. If you got money to burn, get a nice set Volk or Advan wheels. If you want a somewhat cheap, yet super light wheel, RPF1's all the way.

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