View Poll Results: What Should I Get?
2005 Subaru WRX STi



68
18.89%
2005 Mitsubishi Evolution VIII



292
81.11%
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Torn Between 05 STi and 05 EVO VIII GSR
here is my opinion.... the sti looks better on paper but in real life gets edged out by the evo...
if you arent going to mod at all, then you can go either or.
now if you are going to mod, hands down for the evo. the small power difference will be just a memory when you mod, as evo will quickly outrun the sti even with simple boltons.... the price difference between the two is about $1G... spend that into power mods and your evo will be putting down better whp.
now suspension, people love to bolton suspension mods and think they made a difference... suspension is more complex and needs fine tuning from a pro.... the evo already has razor sharp handling, it will take lots of money and tune to get to the evo level of handling.... ok nuff said.
if you arent going to mod at all, then you can go either or.
now if you are going to mod, hands down for the evo. the small power difference will be just a memory when you mod, as evo will quickly outrun the sti even with simple boltons.... the price difference between the two is about $1G... spend that into power mods and your evo will be putting down better whp.
now suspension, people love to bolton suspension mods and think they made a difference... suspension is more complex and needs fine tuning from a pro.... the evo already has razor sharp handling, it will take lots of money and tune to get to the evo level of handling.... ok nuff said.
i went through the same debate when deciding on whether i wanted to pay the extra 6 grand to get an srt4 or just get the ralliart. Dodge wanted 6 grand down for the srt4 and mitsu wanted nothing, so i went the cheaper way, which came back to bite me in the you know what
well like I said, the final decision will depend on how the 05's do and how theyre holding up come spring time
if theyre doing good Im getting an EVO
Im thinking Rally Red
if theyre doing good Im getting an EVO
Im thinking Rally Red
Originally Posted by CincyEvo
A friend is a shock engineer and on the KYB team that developed the shocks on the '05 Evo MR. As part of his job he did tons of side by side performance testing of both cars and the Evo was superior. This was from a perfomance standpoint, he was not commenting either way on use as a daily driver.
If you put snow tires on your Evo, you will rule the road in snow.
If you put snow tires on your Evo, you will rule the road in snow.
I myself had the same dilemma. I went from the EVO to the STI. I had my mind made up and was going to purchase a White STI after driving my friends STI. The next weekend I decided to go by Mitsubishi and test drive the EVO one last time. The next day I was driving home in the EVO and have no regrets except not waiting for the 05 with LSD. They are both awesome cars but I just felt the EVO as being faster due to the 19PSI turbo rush and the handling is much better then the STI. If you plan on mods and will be tracking the car, I would go with the STI...also I have had no problems with my EVO...7000 miles.
If you want all out performance-get the Evo. You want some performnce and comfort get the Sti. Evo weak points Clutch, harsh ride (tein springs will fix about 60% of that) MMC attitude towards warranty work. Sti's weak Point, turbo too small. Gears too short. Not a great handler like the Evo. Evo's strong point, all out performance in every department. Nice seats, excellent steering wheel. Sti's Nice dash board better every day driver better build quality. Who ever says these cars are the same are BSing.
This from the Car Connection today http://thecarconnection.com/index.as...&n=156....With most large car companies reporting sales this morning, a handful of companies turned in their results for October on Election Day. Of the companies reporting, Mitsubishi showed the worst results, with sales down 44 percent from October of 2003.....
If you buy a Mitsubishi you could wind up owning an orphan. That's why I switched but I've got to admit the EVO is a wonderful car.
If you buy a Mitsubishi you could wind up owning an orphan. That's why I switched but I've got to admit the EVO is a wonderful car.
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My car has been modded since 2k. Ive abosolutely beat the crap out of the car and it just keeps taking it and taking it. The ONLY thing the car doesnt like is launching. It will do powerslides and long accerations all day but as soon as you start doing clutch drops, **** breaks.
Mitsubishi sucks but the Evo is awesome
I have 40k on my car with over 400 crank hp on my stock clutch and i have yet to do a single launch. There is nothing wrong with the clutch or transfercase as far as i care. **** simply breaks when you abuse it.
I own both cars as well and let me tell you that the evo is SO much more fun than the STi. We really havent done anyhting to the STi to make power other than an exhaust but as far i can tell, there's a lot of stuff you have to get taken care of to make much more power. (ie fuel pump, turbo, injectors, ect...) The STi clutch is stronger than the evo clutch though. Dont have any comments on the tranny except it grinds too. DCCD is pretty sweet. It doesnt handle nearly as well. Steering sucks. (at least on the 04) build quality is equal to mitsubishi except the STi has a better interior. Also, the evo has A LOT more interior space.
If you have any more questions feel free to ask :-)
Mitsubishi sucks but the Evo is awesome
I have 40k on my car with over 400 crank hp on my stock clutch and i have yet to do a single launch. There is nothing wrong with the clutch or transfercase as far as i care. **** simply breaks when you abuse it.
I own both cars as well and let me tell you that the evo is SO much more fun than the STi. We really havent done anyhting to the STi to make power other than an exhaust but as far i can tell, there's a lot of stuff you have to get taken care of to make much more power. (ie fuel pump, turbo, injectors, ect...) The STi clutch is stronger than the evo clutch though. Dont have any comments on the tranny except it grinds too. DCCD is pretty sweet. It doesnt handle nearly as well. Steering sucks. (at least on the 04) build quality is equal to mitsubishi except the STi has a better interior. Also, the evo has A LOT more interior space.
If you have any more questions feel free to ask :-)
Originally Posted by Dale_K
This from the Car Connection today http://thecarconnection.com/index.as...&n=156....With most large car companies reporting sales this morning, a handful of companies turned in their results for October on Election Day. Of the companies reporting, Mitsubishi showed the worst results, with sales down 44 percent from October of 2003.....
If you buy a Mitsubishi you could wind up owning an orphan. That's why I switched but I've got to admit the EVO is a wonderful car.
If you buy a Mitsubishi you could wind up owning an orphan. That's why I switched but I've got to admit the EVO is a wonderful car.
Originally Posted by Dale_K
This from the Car Connection today http://thecarconnection.com/index.as...&n=156....With most large car companies reporting sales this morning, a handful of companies turned in their results for October on Election Day. Of the companies reporting, Mitsubishi showed the worst results, with sales down 44 percent from October of 2003.....
If you buy a Mitsubishi you could wind up owning an orphan. That's why I switched but I've got to admit the EVO is a wonderful car.
If you buy a Mitsubishi you could wind up owning an orphan. That's why I switched but I've got to admit the EVO is a wonderful car.
Mitsubishi doesn't have the car line that attracts large # of people.
Originally Posted by wrxIIevo
i think u shouldn't compare STi to Evo VIII. STi is 2.5 and Evo VIII is 2.0.
If a 2.0 can handle better than a 2.5, u do the math.
I was thinking between STi and MR and I did alot of researches myself. I had a WRX wagon before with appx. 280 HP. I decided MR for myself. Try test driving MR and STi back to back. You will find yourself an answer. They are both great cars. Choose either one, you will be happy either way.
If a 2.0 can handle better than a 2.5, u do the math.
I was thinking between STi and MR and I did alot of researches myself. I had a WRX wagon before with appx. 280 HP. I decided MR for myself. Try test driving MR and STi back to back. You will find yourself an answer. They are both great cars. Choose either one, you will be happy either way.
Godai: Good question, I will find out. Maybe it was the regular '05 Evo, not the MR. He also went to Japan in '02 to work on the original shocks & had a proptotype Evo at a track event I attended in 3/03.
Several points to consider...
1) The clutch and transmission on the Evo, in my opinion, is far more superior than most other performance vehicles. However, if you like the amazing 0-60 times that many people post (~4.3-4.7 sec.) without any major mods you need to do a 6500RPM dump resulting in major slippage and in most cases (or eventually) burnt tranny or transfer case.
2) STi will probably run you 1G or more $$$ then the Evo, out the door. So, take that money and buy a ACT street clutch for $500 and have it installed for about $400 (at least here in VA)... Granted the clutch feel will still be horrible but you will spare the clutch during MANY high RPM launches...
3) To achieve the same level of handling from an STi you will probably end up spending (I'm guessing here) another $4Gs on a suspension package. Even then I don't think you are guaranteed to beat a stock Evo on the track...
4) Mods are a lot cheaper for the Evo then for the Sti for bigger gains in WHP...
5) Subaru dealerships are not as **** about warranty as Mitsu dealers are. As a matter of fact you will get a one year FREE subscription to the SCCA circuit... Mitsu dealers supporting rally events... Not a chance... If you even get your pic taken near one your warranty will probably be voided...
Anyways, that's my two cents. I say go with the Evo and mod your car responsibly and you should have no problems...
-From the guy in the Lightning Yellow Evo VIII Terrorizing I-495/I-395...
1) The clutch and transmission on the Evo, in my opinion, is far more superior than most other performance vehicles. However, if you like the amazing 0-60 times that many people post (~4.3-4.7 sec.) without any major mods you need to do a 6500RPM dump resulting in major slippage and in most cases (or eventually) burnt tranny or transfer case.
2) STi will probably run you 1G or more $$$ then the Evo, out the door. So, take that money and buy a ACT street clutch for $500 and have it installed for about $400 (at least here in VA)... Granted the clutch feel will still be horrible but you will spare the clutch during MANY high RPM launches...
3) To achieve the same level of handling from an STi you will probably end up spending (I'm guessing here) another $4Gs on a suspension package. Even then I don't think you are guaranteed to beat a stock Evo on the track...
4) Mods are a lot cheaper for the Evo then for the Sti for bigger gains in WHP...
5) Subaru dealerships are not as **** about warranty as Mitsu dealers are. As a matter of fact you will get a one year FREE subscription to the SCCA circuit... Mitsu dealers supporting rally events... Not a chance... If you even get your pic taken near one your warranty will probably be voided...
Anyways, that's my two cents. I say go with the Evo and mod your car responsibly and you should have no problems...
-From the guy in the Lightning Yellow Evo VIII Terrorizing I-495/I-395...


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