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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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If you need reassurance for you to believe, then you might have to wait until the New York auto show in March, where the Evo IX will be revealed.
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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If you need reassurance for you to believe, then you might have to wait until the New York auto show in March, where the Evo IX will be revealed.
That makes me happy! Come to me IX, you are the car of my dreams (well, dreams ranging from the $20,000 to $40,000 price range)!
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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how much would a new set up like this affect tuning of the engine and such? say a dynoflash sort of a set up or a EMS.
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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well they need vvt to compete with the sti, and i think they need to get rid of the cast iron block too.
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueBlurSTi
well they need vvt to compete with the sti, and i think they need to get rid of the cast iron block too.
umm, no..

first of all

they have never needed anything more than what they have already to "compete" with the STI. In fact, it's the STI that needs a little more to "compete" with an Evo. I dunno, perhaps some forged internals as opposed to the crappy cast ones you guys have so that you could actually boost your cars.. Sorry bud, but when it comes to tuning, your EJ257 (USDM 2.5L) can't reliably touch our 4G63.

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i agree that mitsubishi would benefit from shooting towards a perfect 50/50 weight distribution, but changing the blocks foundation from cast iron to aluminum just isnt the way to go about doing that.

Once of the reasons that i believe the 4G63 to be able to handle so much power is because of the cast iron block. It has an uncanny ability to withstand heat and the incredible stress of the high horsepower levels this engine is known to produce. An aluminum block at ridiculous horsepower levels would be much more prone to flexing. I for one, want to see Mitsubishi keep the iron block on the 4G63 as long as that engine is in production.


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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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You guys need to see the Video with Gilles Panizzi talking about the nice MIVEC power deliver in the IX he test drives. Then read someone's translation of it because it's in French.
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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He's only saying there is an improvement with the Mivec, car has more torque and handling is improve as well....

Car is better than the Evo VIII.

But the way he was talking... feel like: " not bad but can be better ".
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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im talking stock for stock here. i dont plan to mod my car. but i do understand what u mean.

plus they have a ford vs chevy thing going on, the sti has vvt the mitsu dosn't so... it would help them. personaly i dont care what block they use its fine if they use a iron but its not needed unless u want to mod witch they highly frown on.

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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by spoolingEVOx
umm, no..

first of all

they have never needed anything more than what they have already to "compete" with the STI. In fact, it's the STI that needs a little more to "compete" with an Evo. I dunno, perhaps some forged internals as opposed to the crappy cast ones you guys have so that you could actually boost your cars.. Sorry bud, but when it comes to tuning, your EJ257 (USDM 2.5L) can't reliably touch our 4G63.

next point

i agree that mitsubishi would benefit from shooting towards a perfect 50/50 weight distribution, but changing the blocks foundation from cast iron to aluminum just isnt the way to go about doing that.

Once of the reasons that i believe the 4G63 to be able to handle so much power is because of the cast iron block. It has an uncanny ability to withstand heat and the incredible stress of the high horsepower levels this engine is known to produce. An aluminum block at ridiculous horsepower levels would be much more prone to flexing. I for one, want to see Mitsubishi keep the iron block on the 4G63 as long as that engine is in production.


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I agree. Everything I've seen shows the Evo to out preform the Scooby. Don't get me wrong, I like the STi and its interior, but I think the Evo is a better preforming and handleing cars. If they were to change the block, I fear mass panic because why try to fix something that is far from broken. Ohh, it you want to talk about 50/50 weight distribution, the RX-8 is well balanced. Just me 2 cents.
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Everyone keeps saying the need engine is going to be a 4g63. I really don't think they should call this engine a 4g63 because it won't even be an iron block anymore. It's not going to have nearly as durable as an iron block would. It's a totally different engine. I vote iron block.
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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its heavy and it traps heat mitsubishi needs to do what is right for stock not 800 hp its a 2.0 4 cil why waste money on it buy a porsche for that kind of money.
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueBlurSTi
well they need vvt to compete with the sti, and i think they need to get rid of the cast iron block too.
Shut-up. The STi is the one that needs "extras" to compete. Keep the flamming down, or you will get own3d.

MIVEC > Subaru VVT
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueBlurSTi
its heavy and it traps heat mitsubishi needs to do what is right for stock not 800 hp its a 2.0 4 cil why waste money on it buy a porsche for that kind of money.

lol, what motor doesnt trap heat? I agree Mitsu needs to do what is right for stock, its always about reliablity, but they i think they are doing it to make a more effective powerband.

You said you were not going to mod your car so im sure you don't really don't understand why we do it, its ok its not your fault, so dont worry about it

Sti RuleS!
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueBlurSTi
im talking stock for stock here. i dont plan to mod my car. but i do understand what u mean.

plus they have a ford vs chevy thing going on, the sti has vvt the mitsu dosn't so... it would help them. personaly i dont care what block they use its fine if they use a iron but its not needed unless u want to mod witch they highly frown on.
Stock for stock the EVO still takes the cake, so what are you talking about? Please do some research before you post ignorant STi is better comments on an EVO forum
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueBlurSTi
its heavy and it traps heat mitsubishi needs to do what is right for stock not 800 hp its a 2.0 4 cil why waste money on it buy a porsche for that kind of money.
What the heck, one of the best things about the EVO is it's tuning potential, how come it's so hard for you to understand this, oh wait, you drive an STi that's why...
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