im not trying to argue its the truth mivec would be a great change, i know the evo is great to mod i just dont need to mod my car. i almost bought an evo i just didnt because i wanted cruise and side airbags etc. the evo is a great car maybe better than the sti but i still like my sti and i like the MR that the dealer has. i almost traded for it but why trade a 05 for a 05? lol i might be a evo 9 owner someday.

 

ARG! How many times do people have to say this. It WILL be a 4G63, the only thing that is changing is it is getting one or more cams with 2 profiles that can be switched at a certain RPM or load. The rest of the engine is exactly the same. Stop it already!

 

Even though there are no more homologation rules for WRC, the rest of the classes (Group N, Open, etc) required production-based cars and engines. If you look at every rally championship other than WRC class, the vast majority are won by people driving Lancer Evolutions.

That's why.

That's also why they aren't really made to be owned by Americans. Most Americans don't really understand the purpose or reasoning behind the car anyway.

 

the sti is more of a rally car than the evo, look at the engine and transmision and everything.

 

Dude dude dude...For one thing the USDM STi doesn't conform to the 2.0L engine requirement like the rest of the world's STis, so there goes that theory. However, in 2003 they let the 2.5L STi's compete against the USDM Evos in the open class of the SCCA ProRally. The USDM Evos dominated and the STis got pwned. If you look at the rally results from around the world in the Group N class, you will see the vast majority of the winners run Lancer Evolutions.

Also, just look at the model lineup for the Evo. They offer an Evo RS (Rallye Sport...as in a car stripped down for use in rallies...as in STFU you don't know what you are talking about).

PWNED yet or do you want more?

 

Ok machron1 I get what you mean, but are you saying that the engine will be made out of all iron like it is now or no???? Because in my mind that's a huge difference. If all they're changing is the cams that that will be great. I'm just worried about it not being made out of iron like this one is.

 

machron1, do you think a MIVEC head swap would be feasible for us evo VIII owners?

 

I can't see the head as being any more than a bolt-on affair. The problem would be controlling the MIVEC switchover.

 

im saying engine desion wise, its about the reliablilty and the driver. and as u said they let the stis compete and their were fewer stis than evos. theirs always a chance that someone will hit a tree or break down like mitsubishi has done both in the wrc in 04. and its also about what u can get your hands on they dont sell evos/stis everywhere. their both very great cars but the sti is better at rally most people that u meet would say the same, maybe not on here because everyone seems to think the evo is better than a enzo.

 

it needs to be aluminum not iron, theirs no point unless u want 30 pounds of boost and it to last for 40 years.

 

bro, the 4G63 is a 4G63 because it can withstand 30lbs of boost and survive the test of time.. this ain't no subaru EJ257 we're talking about here.. the engine was and should remain cast-iron/aluminum head

 

Aluminum melts. Every STi in the world has an EJ20 2.0L engine with forged rods & pistons & a cast-iron block. The USDM STi has cast internals and an aluminum block with steel sleeves, because they knew dumb Americans like you would think it's better lol.

 

So.... is the evo going to have iron or aluminum....???
We know iron is better and we know almost everyone except BlueBlurSTi wants to customize an evo. But is the new engine going to be iron or not? Does anyone know???

 

Play nice boys - we all know that the stock US 05 Evo and Sti are neck and neck with some give and take here and there - the Evo is slightly sharper with better seats - its been beaten to death.

Any ways - news from Europe:

Evo IX info (17/01/2005)
Mitsubishi has reveiled more information regarding the forthcoming Evolution 9. The car will be released in Europe with power up from 265 to 281 bhp. All cars will have a revised suspension and modified ACD and SAYC. These will be sold via the official dealership in Europe. The car will also be available via Ralliart affiliates in another form, probably RS or GT-version as a base for rally cars. More specs can be found here soon.

Evolution 9 semi-official updates:
1) RS 5 Speed (200 units only)
- new alloys
- new front bumper
- new mivec engine 20% lower down torque
GSR = 40.8 kg at 3000rpm
GT = 41.5 kg at 3000rpm
- new magenesium titanium turbo
- carbon spoiler
- aluminium roof and impact bars

17 inch wheels and brembos has become an option again, passenger airbag is an option as well.

2) GT 5 Speed Group-n homologated (1800 units) - as above plus:
- bilstein suspension
- recaro full bucket seats
- sport abs

3) GSR 6 Speed (5000 units) - as RS but new turbo as option - SAYC
- bilstein suspension
- projector fogs
- leather recaro bucket seats
- sports abs

Colours: as per last year but medium purplish grey mica replaced with blue mica.


http://www.lancerevoclub.org/

 

I was talking about the Factory-Backed open-class cars (2 each, Evos and STis) that competed in the 2003 SCCA ProRally. The factory team took first in 6 out of 9 races and dominated. There were NOT more factory backed open-class Evos than STis you don't know what you are talking about. The USDM STis are NOT better at rally because they aren't even a true rally car so there isn't anywhere to compete with them. There are only 3 engine configurations to choose from under Group N rules, and they all start with "Select a 2000 cm3 engine...". You can't have a 2.5L engine.

The other STis from around the world with 2.0L cast-iron blocks do well, but for the most part still get pwned by Evos.