You may want to check out the Getrag offical site, they already produce Mits AMT transmissions on Colt (http://www.answers.com/topic/getrag)

Getrag AMT Info:-

http://www.getrag.de/407

Getrag dedicated Sales Executives assigned to Mits:-

http://www.getrag.de/459

Although the six speed AMT doesn't appear to be able to handle the output of the EVO engine, so they may have made a special order six speed AMT box for the EVO X.

Who knows, it's all speculation without an official announcement.

 

My brand newRoad&Track says it as fact-the Evo X is gonna have a dual-clutch gearbox.

I think it has the potential to be great,but remember guys we were also told by alot of sources the new Evo was going to be "signifigantly lighter".

I hope that it's right,it sure is hard to believe that all these sources could be wrong-I mean you'd think Mitsubishi would ask for corrections from all these publishers.

 

what about cvt... my gf had a cvt audi a4.. we both had the same mods. and her car was faster...stays at peak power the entire time... no shifting... nothing...


the problem with the audi cvt is it was only good up to 280 bhp

cheers!

 

Yeah,we have the latest Mitsu CVT in our 07 Outlander,and it's a real sweatheart.

Magnesium paddle shifters (same as the Evo X),quick responses to gear changes,holds the gear selection to redline,has compression braking,and snaps off shifts very firmly,a good jerk-snap reaction at each shift-all at redline.

But fantastically smooth under auto driving,unlike all the complaints of the BMW-style SMGs under automatic mode-not jerky at all.

And think of how sweet it would be to have an Evo shift like a manual,launch hard over and over and never burn clutches-even with some mods. Launch control baby! It's possible,but I dont think that our market is ready for a CVT Evo. Alot of people are upset about a self-shifting manual already.

CVTs have been engineered to handle any load required of them-including earth-movers,they are very simple and easier to repair. Gas mileage is great on them too-many publications say as good as stick shift cars.

When the Evo X concept was shown at the Tokyo auto show,they confirmed that the newest CVT was going to be available there,but they've never said anything about it here.

My only reservation about the CVT is how hard it would be on the cooling system on the track,and whether or not it can handle lap after lap without burning up the fluid like some automatics. I think that could be handled-again thinking about earthmovers running sometimes 24 hours under huge loads.

 

wouldn't performace be better for CVT if you left it in auto mode rather than manual shifting mode because rpm would stay at peak hp in auto mode and not drop off peak hp if in manual mode. can you do some comparision test on this.

 

ya its better in auto mode...

in the audi, ya floor it and it goes straight to near redline and just holds..

the way it works is its constantly changing gear ratio's. no shifting...

there are preprogrammed gears in tiptronic mode, which is actually slower for drag racing,but a little better for in traffic as far as holding gears at higher rpm's. but thats a luxury car, so it wasn't in the program to hold high rpms.

cheers!

 

Its no longer speculation.
Motor Trend,SCC and others have guaranteed,direct from Evo engineer's mouths.

The Evo X is going to be twin-clutch,DSG-style equipped. No auto,no CVT. Twin clutch gearbox and what they promise will be a lag-free shift,up and down,no hesitation driving experience. It will all be tied into the SAWC system.

Told you!

And if anyone doubts the CVT would have been cool on an Evo,read the Motor Trend opinion of it on the Lancer GTS. They talk about how good it was on the quickness of the shifts,and say it's one of the greatest things about the drivetrain on the new Lancer. Like I said-if they could somehow get that CVT to perform lap after lap on a road course,I think Id prefer it. Even if it doesnt match the TwinClutch trans millisecond for millisecond,I think it would be the superior transmission if you take in the big picture.

There's still hope-when the Evo X concept was showin in Japan,the CVT was promised.

But like I told you,all this garbage-transmission hand-wringing was all for not. Mitsu didnt and will not ruin the Evo.

And I agree with some previous posts here,a CVT not ham-stringed by marketing with a hold-at-peak torque driving experience would be awesome. The shifting is great with the Outlander,harsh enough to break the tires lose and engage traction control from a roll,but holding at peak torque all the way down for a quarter mile pass,or holding it at peak torque to explode off a corner would be awesome. It would also be much better on nearly all of the powerplant subsystems to not constantly cycle through RPM ranges. And if we can get excited comparing millisecond shift times,how great would a completely lossless (in time) power output be?

There's another issue,although it's one that I think is being blown out of proportion,and certainly be posted on a particular Evo board with yet more hand-wringing. What do we do with our twin-clutch trans when we've modded our Evo,raised our redline,or we are making so much power the system acts wonky on the track?
Remember it's all tied into SAWC. There was some speculation about this with the VWAG DSG system,but I havent heard alot of angst about it. I didnt read any huge criticism for that hopped up 400+HP Audi with the stock DSG system,but Im sure someone knows more than I do about it.
But yeah,a CVT that's designed to target RPM at peak torque all the time like a 24 hr torque buffet would be a lot easier for the software guys to work with,but we will see. In the end Im sure will find for the majority of us that will be happy with 40-80 additional hp there will be some kind of operational window where the system wont poop on itself.

But yeah,we cant get many to agree that a paddle-shifted Evo is a better Evo for the future,there's no way they would be ready for an Evo that didnt bounce off the rev-limiter or make PSSSH PSSSH noises every 3 seconds.

 

don't you mean you want to hold the rpm at peak horse power and not peak torque. on an Evo, peak torque occurs between 3k-4k. you don't want your rpm to stay at 4k, you want it at around 7k where peak hp is.

 

i've driven CVT in a mini and DSG in an audi and a SMG in a bmw. overall i have fun in the smg, and bmws wont be known for its m5, m3, and m6 without the SMG.

my million dollar question would be...is the Evo X's AMT compareable to bmw's SMG?

if not, regular old fashioned manual is fine for me.