Evolution MR - Mitsubishi Racing [MERGED]
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That looks like the Dallas 03 show.. But a red Evo was up on the stand here.
http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mis...com/mister2zx3
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choad
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I personally look forward to the day when we can forget those two cars.. 
needs to forget as well, because the movie is almost a year old, has already been played out by the video release and the car is also a year old..I see that yellowish/green Evo 7 and want to upchuck..
2 Fast and 2 Furious?
How bout "2 Old and 2 Played out.. "
WHERE is the MR???!!!!????
needs to forget as well, because the movie is almost a year old, has already been played out by the video release and the car is also a year old..I see that yellowish/green Evo 7 and want to upchuck..2 Fast and 2 Furious?
How bout "2 Old and 2 Played out.. "
WHERE is the MR???!!!!????
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From: Texas...panhandle...ugh
Plaaaaayd out...no doubt. That movie was a porno for cars...it was really such unbelievably bad dialogue, theme, and characters that it was only worth fast-forwarding to the driving scenes. Even those were disappointing. C'mon Mitsu...don't short change us this time....MR with all the trimmings. 
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Oh look useful information being added to the thread .. 
What a bunch of useless angst..
The MR has lightened balance shafts as well, so of course for those (which is everyone right? jeez) who pulls the motor apart to tune it to the extrem0x0rs. It's just another part to swap..
Financially you probably waste more money tuning a car, then to just get into an MR and learn how to drive it..
MR GSR > 8 GSR.
If you want to "tune" it.. learn to drive it at least before you ruin it burning up clutches into ditches and guard rails...
What a bunch of useless angst..
The MR has lightened balance shafts as well, so of course for those (which is everyone right? jeez) who pulls the motor apart to tune it to the extrem0x0rs. It's just another part to swap..
Financially you probably waste more money tuning a car, then to just get into an MR and learn how to drive it..
MR GSR > 8 GSR.
If you want to "tune" it.. learn to drive it at least before you ruin it burning up clutches into ditches and guard rails...
Last edited by Mister2zx3; Apr 5, 2004 at 08:44 AM.
NSX is getting redisgned next year and the S2000 had a minor facelift done to it. In japan, they still have 2 liters becuase they don't care much about torque. The S2000 now has an 8K redline
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They care about torque, they just happen to take sports cars to the road circuits and are more concerned about a car's complete capabilites than it's ability to move from stop light to stop light.. Why would anyone treat a sports car like a bus? only in 'merica..
In Europe they understand how to use the roads and stay in the slow lanes and let anyone who wants to go past you in the fast lane to go by. But around here everyone is a self appointed upholder of what is right in their small pea..
In Europe they understand how to use the roads and stay in the slow lanes and let anyone who wants to go past you in the fast lane to go by. But around here everyone is a self appointed upholder of what is right in their small pea..
The 2.0L isn't because they don't care about torque, nor is it about driveability. It's all about taxes. Big engines are levied with huge taxes in Japan.
People speak about the 2.0L as if it's some sort of "JDM fetish", when in reality it's because they CAN'T have bigger engines without paying those fines. You think they don't want big engines in Japan?
People speak about the 2.0L as if it's some sort of "JDM fetish", when in reality it's because they CAN'T have bigger engines without paying those fines. You think they don't want big engines in Japan?
I didn't say they had 2.0L, I'm just saying bigger engines have more taxes, which obviously includes 3.0L. To quote a forum member who used to be a regular here keeping us updated with Evo news before it actually came out:
quote by shirokuma:
quote by shirokuma:
I actually don't understand the reason not to like the larger engines. The Japanese don't mind - they'd love to get larger engines than the 2.0-litres if they didn't have to pay more taxes on it.
See, the reason for the 2.0-litre motor size is tax related. Bigger engine = more taxes. Turbocharging, supercharging, whatever else is irrelevent. WRC rules, a long time ago, mandated homologation cars to be sold to the public, and 2.0-litres are the size limit in WRC. Pretty much because it's more European World Rally than World Rally. And Europe also is fixated upon taxing the public on every single matter, including engine size.
In Japan, there's a lot of foreigners that come into Japan and try to be "Japanese". The problem is, they tend to be far more Japanese than the Japanese - the Japanese are trying to become more international. I'd say trying to have a exact JDM vehicle is roughly the same thing - there's quite a few Japanese that'd rather have the 2.5-litre STi than the 2.0-litre. Or a 2.4-litre Evo instead of a 2.0-litre.
From a long-time owner of JDM 2.0-litre turbo motors, I'd love more displacement. The 2.0's make good power, but they are inherently laggy off-boost, and don't actually produce big numbers outside of peak areas. If there was a 2.5 to 3.0 litre turbo motor that was close to the same weight, had the same peak numbers, but actually moved the earth for you from 1500rpm on, I'd be there. Given the obsession with Skyline GT-R's, I'd say a lot of enthusiasts in Japan feel the same.
Cheers,
Paul Hansen
See, the reason for the 2.0-litre motor size is tax related. Bigger engine = more taxes. Turbocharging, supercharging, whatever else is irrelevent. WRC rules, a long time ago, mandated homologation cars to be sold to the public, and 2.0-litres are the size limit in WRC. Pretty much because it's more European World Rally than World Rally. And Europe also is fixated upon taxing the public on every single matter, including engine size.
In Japan, there's a lot of foreigners that come into Japan and try to be "Japanese". The problem is, they tend to be far more Japanese than the Japanese - the Japanese are trying to become more international. I'd say trying to have a exact JDM vehicle is roughly the same thing - there's quite a few Japanese that'd rather have the 2.5-litre STi than the 2.0-litre. Or a 2.4-litre Evo instead of a 2.0-litre.
From a long-time owner of JDM 2.0-litre turbo motors, I'd love more displacement. The 2.0's make good power, but they are inherently laggy off-boost, and don't actually produce big numbers outside of peak areas. If there was a 2.5 to 3.0 litre turbo motor that was close to the same weight, had the same peak numbers, but actually moved the earth for you from 1500rpm on, I'd be there. Given the obsession with Skyline GT-R's, I'd say a lot of enthusiasts in Japan feel the same.
Cheers,
Paul Hansen