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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 12:49 PM
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Thats the thing.. If the XI is around 50k, it will be a tough sell.. The new CLA AMG is in the 50's I think. Why wouldn't someone just get one of those..

To sell the Mitsu, they are going to need to keep the price lower..
Well the MR here in Canada is the MR Touring for 52k. With taxes you are looking at 61k.

So if the next EVO is pushing 10k more sticker price on the US variant and this translates into a 60-70K car here in Canada...oouufff... I mean I was already on the fence when I bought this car compared to an Audi S4. This would be putting the Evo in C63 AMG and Lexus IS-F territory.

For a DD that I track 6 times a year it is a bit of a no brainer to go with a better brand.

I never cared about what other people think of me in a car, but I also would never buy a Suzuki no matter how kick-*** it was.

I'm glad I got rid of my STI to get an Evo, but at this point I don't think I will be a repeat customer.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BoosterX
Well the MR here in Canada is the MR Touring for 52k. With taxes you are looking at 61k.

So if the next EVO is pushing 10k more sticker price on the US variant and this translates into a 60-70K car here in Canada...oouufff...

I'm glad I got rid of my STI to get an Evo, but at this point I don't think I will be a repeat customer.
As a customer, yes, we all want the car as cheap as possible. However, there will always be an affordable Ralliart or send hand market if people are tight in money.

For me, I think it is still worth to get one even if it goes up to 60-70K. I always feel that EVO and STI are selling too cheap. These are the top line of the company, and you can get them under 50K. That are almost no competitor can beat them at this price level with this great handling 4WD street version rally car.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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Agreed, evo / Sti are the only game in town at that price range.
I think they should make a factory modded version sort of a cross between hybrid / gt-r.
If they beef it up enough, why not if it can be done.
They could make it a monster, while upping the brand image.
Imagine if they bumped the output & offered a luxury option like most of the high end stuff. Amg/m/ipl etc., competitor.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 09:30 PM
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Yes, $50k has a lot of options. However, I only love rally cars. I just like how it handle on snow, a lot of fun in winter.

Actually, it is not that bad to have a hybrid. Even Subaru is planing to turn the STI into a hybrid. I think people are over reacted to the hybrid cars. Just don't confuse with sporty hybrid and economy hybrid cars.
I think an Evo hybrid could really be a new big thing, and they'd prob add a lot of tech stuff to it as most hybrids have. I guess I'm more so worried about the price tag, I almost feel as though if I'm going to buy an Evo I should really do it soon before they do become 60-70k. At that sticker, I can forget ever owning a new one.
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 06:30 AM
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The reason why these cars are so successful is because they offer great performance at a reasonable price.
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 09:06 AM
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As a customer, yes, we all want the car as cheap as possible...
Not necessarily. Some of us it was a question of performance to dollar ratio. Once the EVO goes up in price there's no reason to buy it based off performance in comparison to other cars. It becomes no longer a good deal.
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 09:30 AM
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^--- That depends how the performance changes. It could exponentially go up. It could be doing 0-60 in under 4 seconds off of the show room floor. No use speculating now, at least wait until some prototype is released.

But regardless, I can't think of a single car I'd own under $70k other than an Evo. After that, you enter GT-R territory along with some other "rare" cars.
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BoosterX
Not necessarily. Some of us it was a question of performance to dollar ratio. Once the EVO goes up in price there's no reason to buy it based off performance in comparison to other cars. It becomes no longer a good deal.
Literally, you are just saying what I have said.
People want products as lower price as possible no matter in actual price or ratio. In terms of ratio, you would probably either looking for a specific performance at as lower price as possible or a specific price with as much power as possible. These turn out that you are still looking for a cheaper car, a good deal.

However, there are also many other factors. Personal preference has a great effect. For me, my priority is function and reliability. Following is physical appearance. Performance is the third. Price is the fourth.
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BoosterX
Not necessarily. Some of us it was a question of performance to dollar ratio. Once the EVO goes up in price there's no reason to buy it based off performance in comparison to other cars. It becomes no longer a good deal.
At that point Mitsubishi would have a weird line up of cars... two affordable crossovers, the inexpensive Lancer, that weird electric thing and then a 70k race car?
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mitlan
Literally, you are just saying what I have said.
People want products as lower price as possible no matter in actual price or ratio. In terms of ratio, you would probably either looking for a specific performance at as lower price as possible or a specific price with as much power as possible. These turn out that you are still looking for a cheaper car, a good deal.

However, there are also many other factors. Personal preference has a great effect. For me, my priority is function and reliability. Following is physical appearance. Performance is the third. Price is the fourth.
Not quite.

I was replying to your specific comment that some of us want a car as cheap as possible.

I have no issue with spending more money. I just won't do it on a Mitsubishi.

I didn't buy the EVO because it was cheaper. The EVO MR here is 52k and the Audi S4 is 54k.
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 07:57 AM
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^--- That depends how the performance changes. It could exponentially go up. It could be doing 0-60 in under 4 seconds off of the show room floor. No use speculating now, at least wait until some prototype is released.

But regardless, I can't think of a single car I'd own under $70k other than an Evo. After that, you enter GT-R territory along with some other "rare" cars.
No way in hell the next Evo will be doing 0-62mph in under 4 seconds.

GT-R's here are over 100k.

70k? GT500, SS 1LE, C63 AMG, Lexus IS-F, S4, S5, TTS, Ford LeBaron

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At that point Mitsubishi would have a weird line up of cars... two affordable crossovers, the inexpensive Lancer, that weird electric thing and then a 70k race car?
The same could be said of Lexus. Bunch of cars from 30-90k and then bam LFA 500k

I assume that they'd fill in the 30-40k with Ralliart cars. I still don't believe there will be an EVO XI let alone its cost being 70k. Unless they bring FQxxx models.

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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BoosterX
No way in hell the next Evo will be doing 0-62mph in under 4 seconds.

I assume that they'd fill in the 30-40k with Ralliart cars. I still don't believe there will be an EVO XI let alone its cost being 70k. Unless they bring FQxxx models.
Agree with the first comment. I remember announced that they are aiming between 4 to 5 second only.

For the increase of price, it is mainly because of the hybrid. It actually make sense when looking at other hybrid's prices.
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BoosterX
No way in hell the next Evo will be doing 0-62mph in under 4 seconds.

GT-R's here are over 100k.

70k? GT500, SS 1LE, C63 AMG, Lexus IS-F, S4, S5, TTS, Ford LeBaron

The same could be said of Lexus. Bunch of cars from 30-90k and then bam LFA 500k

I assume that they'd fill in the 30-40k with Ralliart cars. I still don't believe there will be an EVO XI let alone its cost being 70k. Unless they bring FQxxx models.
If it truly is a diesel hybrid, 0-60 in under 4 seconds is highly obtainable. It takes a great deal of torque to reach those numbers, both hybrid and diesel are good at torque. Where they're planning on getting HP is what I'm wondering.

I was talking about used GT-Rs. You can get a very lightly used one here for 70k-75k. 2009 you can find under 70k. And I'd still take an Evo X over each one of those. With very mild mods the X is much more of a beast on a track than those cars modded.

Originally Posted by mitlan
Agree with the first comment. I remember announced that they are aiming between 4 to 5 second only.

For the increase of price, it is mainly because of the hybrid. It actually make sense when looking at other hybrid's prices.
^--- Mind sharing that "announcement" from ????
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 01:09 PM
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I was hearing that 2013/14 would possibly the END of the Evo (at least in North America). Personally, I wouldn't mind if they did discontinue it. Most cars that are discontinued usually still have parts available for about 10 years afterwards. Also, I think the Evo would then be in the same category as the Toyota Supras (1993-1998) and the Acura NSXs. The ones out there will either go up in value OR hold their value really well because the inventory will be very limited. I currently have a 2010 Evo and once it's paid off, I plan to hold onto it and make it a track car. Hell, I may even keep it stock and hold onto it. I bet a 2008-20?? EvoX would be worth a nice chunk of change 10+ years from now IF they did discontinue it.


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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 02:16 PM
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For the increase of price, it is mainly because of the hybrid. It actually make sense when looking at other hybrid's prices.
There's no credible source yet to even guess at it being a hybrid. I think people forget that Mitsubishi has a targeted demographic to sell new EVOs at. I don't think previous new EVO buyers (me) would line up with this new model. So then, if they actually have people working in marketing who are they going to take sales from? Who are they going to target? It makes no sense to me now this new proposed 70k Evo.



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If it truly is a diesel hybrid, 0-60 in under 4 seconds is highly obtainable. It takes a great deal of torque to reach those numbers, both hybrid and diesel are good at torque. Where they're planning on getting HP is what I'm wondering.

I was talking about used GT-Rs. You can get a very lightly used one here for 70k-75k. 2009 you can find under 70k. And I'd still take an Evo X over each one of those. With very mild mods the X is much more of a beast on a track than those cars modded.

^--- Mind sharing that "announcement" from ????
Sort of like the Golf GTD. I get your point but I don't seeing it being a competitive product all around without something like an 8 speed gear box.

Doesn't make it comparable to argue sticker price when throwing in depreciation on used vehicles, but I get your point.
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