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Evo MR write up in Road & Track

Old Apr 6, 2004 | 08:47 PM
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Blonde, I semi-agree with your logic. Sure, if you plan on changing absolutely everything on the car, then it might make more sense to buy a normal VIII, especially if you already have one. But, what if you take, what some consider to be, a better platform (with the 6mt, lighter stock weight etc...) and mod that? It could be concieved that you'd end up with at least a marginally better result. Then again, maybe I'm just being picky! I plan on staying with the stock turbo, whether I stay with my current EVO or trade for the MR. I dunno, I really am not one of these "need to be the cool kid with the new hot ****", just milling things around in my head a bit, anyway it looks like we have a while before it's actually released so we'll see.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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I wouldn't count on the S-AYC unless Mitsu figured out the packaging issues with it and the ORVR (On-board Refueling Vapor Recovery) system required in the US. But where there's a will there's a way...
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by ricardon
Blonde, I semi-agree with your logic. Sure, if you plan on changing absolutely everything on the car, then it might make more sense to buy a normal VIII, especially if you already have one. But, what if you take, what some consider to be, a better platform (with the 6mt, lighter stock weight etc...) and mod that? It could be concieved that you'd end up with at least a marginally better result. Then again, maybe I'm just being picky! I plan on staying with the stock turbo, whether I stay with my current EVO or trade for the MR. I dunno, I really am not one of these "need to be the cool kid with the new hot ****", just milling things around in my head a bit, anyway it looks like we have a while before it's actually released so we'll see.
but again it all depends on whether you think that the MR is a better platform. for me for example, it is not a better platform but it is a slightly modded version of our car. the suspension i can do without since i have cusco coils, the seats i have brides, the 6spd i don't want because i love the 5spd and ayc and acd i really DON'T want since i drove a car that had them and didn't really like it that much and also they are just more things that can go wrong. i would think that it is a better platform if the engine block was different, the body is reinforced by more weld spots and basically other things that one can't do on his own (without selling a kidney). a lighter roof is not really what i call a major upgrade because not only it doesn't take that much weight but because i fear the day that i am going to roll my car on aluminum roof.


but again, it all depends on the person and i can see how some might view the MR as the best thing to happen to the world of automotive.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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The aluminum roof is very cool, because you loose the weight exactly where you don't want it, high up in the vehicle, therefore lowering the cars center of gravity. That's why I got a non-sunroof Evo.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by EVO Neil
The aluminum roof is very cool, because you loose the weight exactly where you don't want it, high up in the vehicle, therefore lowering the cars center of gravity. That's why I got a non-sunroof Evo.
oh i totally agree about that. however, i am not that comfortable with a roof like that espacially when there are other ways of lowring weight and playing with the center if gravity.

very good point though...
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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You do realize that aluminum can be just as strong as steel and lighter. Look at the Audi A8 for example, all aluminum and passes all U.S. crash tests. What's so wrong with aluminum, it's not soda cans we're talking about here? What do you think several of the Evo suspension parts are made of?

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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by EVO Neil
You do realize that aluminum can be just as strong as steel and lighter. Look at the Audi A8 for example, all aluminum and passes all U.S. car tests. What's so wrong with aluminum, it's not soda cans we're talking about here? What do you think several of the Evo suspension parts are made of?
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I was just about to say that, just like the Jaguars, it's all aluminum and it's still safe.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 02:51 PM
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I wear a aluminum helmet and throw myself off my roof everytime i see or read a article about the MR or a newer model. So its like 5 times a day and I have yet to crack my skull. So its definately safe.

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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 03:17 PM
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Wonder why didn't use Adamantium for the roof or the whole car
It's pretty light I gather from seeing Wolverine flinging those things around like chopsticks and it's indestructable too
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 03:30 PM
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4kg on the roof really isn't much of a weight reduction (minor performance upgrade), again, go on a diet if you really want a weight reduction (if you're obese). believe me, your car will run alot faster. there are many other things you can do to reduce the weight of your evo other than that stupid roof. and by the way, evo mr is very unlikely to hit the u.s. shores; so whether you are a current evo owner, a prospective owner, enthusiasts or just interested, keep waiting and dreaming.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by RTS EVO VIII
4kg on the roof really isn't much of a weight reduction (minor performance upgrade), again, go on a diet if you really want a weight reduction (if you're obese). believe me, your car will run alot faster. there are many other things you can do to reduce the weight of your evo other than that stupid roof. and by the way, evo mr is very unlikely to hit the u.s. shores; so whether you are a current evo owner, a prospective owner, enthusiasts or just interested, keep waiting and dreaming.
Thanks for the tip, as I am on a diet for just that reason. But I totally disagree with you about the roof weight. If you want to lower the vehicles center of gravity, which in turn will give it better handling, where exactly do you want the weight to disappear from? High up in the chassis, like the roof, which is exactly why I bought a non-sunroof Evo.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by KavMan
Wonder why didn't use Adamantium for the roof or the whole car
It's pretty light I gather from seeing Wolverine flinging those things around like chopsticks and it's indestructable too
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by EVO Neil


Thanks for the tip, as I am on a diet for just that reason. But I totally disagree with you about the roof weight. If you want to lower the vehicles center of gravity, which in turn will give it better handling, where exactly do you want the weight to disappear from? High up in the chassis, like the roof, which is exactly why I bought a non-sunroof Evo.
hey, no problem with the tip. glad you liked it. sun roof, no sun roof, or no roof, who gives a damn. how much faster is your evo compare to an evo with sun roof? does your evo handle much better than the one with the sun roof? if so, how much better? unless you're a pro racer who takes his evo to the race track, and where every tiny bit of weight counts, all that roof thing doesn't make sense for a street car which most people drive daily.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by RTS EVO VIII


hey, no problem with the tip. glad you liked it. sun roof, no sun roof, or no roof, who gives a damn. how much faster is your evo compare to an evo with sun roof? does your evo handle much better than the one with the sun roof? if so, how much better? unless you're a pro racer who takes his evo to the race track, and where every tiny bit of weight counts, all that roof thing doesn't make sense for a street car which most people drive daily.
I was using the sunroof as an example of why the aluminum roof is important. It's physics, thirty-five less pounds above your head does translate to better handling. Ask the Ford engineers why their Bullitt Mustang handles better than their Mach 1, it all about the difference between a SOHC heads and DOHC heads, and yes, I noticed the difference right away when I tested them and that weight is a lot lower in the car than the sunroof. So yes, some of us can tell the difference and for some that could be the difference between finishing first or second in a (legal) race, like SCCA Pro Solo.
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