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Old May 24, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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most likely you don't need the extra larger oil cooler, the stock is very efficient and people with an oil temp gauge reported that sometimes the oil temp is too low when cold outside ...

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What about the larger oil cooler? Standrad for all or only MR

Now i'm confused between the RS or the MR

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Old May 24, 2004 | 07:51 PM
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Wow. Bigger cup holder, but yet still no Cruise Control....

But they are making great strides to offer options and variants.

an MR with Cruise and Sunroof would be my first choice, but it's not offered, might be time to go the other route and just get an RS for total track dominance. Titanium Bits for further weight loss, exhuast, lug nuts, strut bars, etc., aero bits full underbody skid board and *real* big wing. The only thing it loses out on is the 6MT.

But I still would prefer the MR with sunroof and cruise so after running a few weekend laps it still could work as a double date car to the drive in. Or take the whole family out to the lake or park.. offroad style..
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Old May 24, 2004 | 07:52 PM
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I was sent this information recently, but I don't want to name any names and get anyone in trouble. I'll try and double check the docs to see what is said about the oil cooler.

As for getting the shaft on the first year models... you have to remember we've all had our Evos for a good while now. With the competition out there, it's great to know that the Evo is getting some attention and we're getting what we've always asked for. Remember all the posts about getting ACD and a front diff? Based on these docs it's happening! I'm pretty sure there will be even more info over the next few months

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Old May 24, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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hey mark. i realize you can't name your source but can you say how reliable it is? did you get the scoop on a release date for the '05's?

thank you posting this...awesome job!!!
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Old May 24, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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Also, all of us that bought the '03 whenever it first came out were called by Mitsu... They wanted to know how we liked our cars... What we thought it needed, and what we'd like to see in the future....

I'm not sure about everyone else, but it was like a 10 minute interview over the phone, and I remember being asked if I'd like to see a 6 speed in the future evo's or ACD or AYC... I answered yes to all... I'm sure so did the rest of us... Well for once; they may have listened... So the way I see it; it's out own fault...

I'll buy an MR when it comes out and put my evo back to stock, (swapping upgrades to the MR), and drive the '03 as my daily driver... That way I don't rack up miles everyday... Maybe make the MR a power *****/ track monster; so Kory can teach me how to drive like it should be driven....
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Old May 24, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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I'll try and double check the docs to see what is said about the oil cooler.k
Cool, thanks Mark. I guess both you and I know better cooling is going to help and this may be the deciding factor between the MR or RS
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Old May 24, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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lol, if it makes you feel better, 90% of the people on this board won't even notice the new diff and won't use the acd as much as they think. my friend bought the sti becuase of the dccd and take a guess how many times he actually moved that dial???
I think you would notice the front TorSen in daily driving. I does not have a noticeable locking action like the Sure-Trac in the STi. But it does increase the available grip at the front easily enough to feel it when accelerating out of tight corners on the street. The best description I can give you is that it feels very well planted in the front. It works in a ITR it also works well in an Evo, SRT-4 and the new STi. BTW, all the Evos that were mentioned as good handlers in the SCC Evo orgy had some type of front LSD. Anyway better power distribution in a AWD car is a worthwhile goal.

The ACD improves the already crisp turn in of the Evo. The ACD modes are noticeable also. The gravel mode is the most like the current viscous center diff The Snow mode feels almost like FWD and the Tarmac is more rear biased and is very fun in the wet.

I have never driven an Evo with ACD and without AYC, but I will as soon as my MR arrives.
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Old May 24, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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Can the ECU for the ACD be reprogrammed to offer near any ratio of torque distribution?
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Old May 24, 2004 | 10:45 PM
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lol, if it makes you feel better, 90% of the people on this board won't even notice the new diff and won't use the acd as much as they think. my friend bought the sti becuase of the dccd and take a guess how many times he actually moved that dial???
I have an STi and I move the DCCD dial every time I go to the drags and every time I like to get the back wheels to to step out. Too bad the 05 Evo's won't have something more locigal and adjustable like the STi DCCD.

Just to clarify my position... I am still going to get an MR.
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Old May 24, 2004 | 10:53 PM
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The only thing it loses out on is the 6MT.
Has anyone here even tested an Evo 6MT? I have an STi and I hate my 6MT, wishing every day that I was rocking the STi RA 5MT gearset. Don't buy into the common belief that more=better.
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Old May 24, 2004 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by erikgj
I think you would notice the front TorSen in daily driving. I does not have a noticeable locking action like the Sure-Trac in the STi. But it does increase the available grip at the front easily enough to feel it when accelerating out of tight corners on the street. The best description I can give you is that it feels very well planted in the front. It works in a ITR it also works well in an Evo, SRT-4 and the new STi. BTW, all the Evos that were mentioned as good handlers in the SCC Evo orgy had some type of front LSD. Anyway better power distribution in a AWD car is a worthwhile goal.

The ACD improves the already crisp turn in of the Evo. The ACD modes are noticeable also. The gravel mode is the most like the current viscous center diff The Snow mode feels almost like FWD and the Tarmac is more rear biased and is very fun in the wet.

I have never driven an Evo with ACD and without AYC, but I will as soon as my MR arrives.
i agree and i have driven a acd equiped evo 7. however, you have to keep in mind that a large number of owners do not track their cars and do not push their cars to the limits. these people would not feel the difference simply for the fact that even the 03' evo is more than a lot of people can handle.

blinguskahn- do you ever play with it one the street when you drive day to day?
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Old May 24, 2004 | 11:00 PM
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blinguskahn- do you ever play with it one the street when you drive day to day?
Totally!!! It's a pretty fun feature if you are like me and like to show off. If I am rolling with a bunh of friends and we pull away from a stop sign, I like to dial it all the way back when making a turn to get the back wheels to slide out like a RWD car.

But when I am doing some serious driving in the hills I will never move it from Auto mode. Only for drag racing and showing off will I mess with the DCCD.

After driving both cars extensively I have to say that they both are fantastic. They don't need any reviews at all because they are possibly the best cars to have so far. But what I would say that has relavance to this topic is that the STi is more fun with one reason being the DCCD and the Evo is more precise. I believe that the ACD with its limited settings will keep the car precise, which is also fun!

To me there is no war between the Evo and STi... love them, want them, mod them, both or either!!!!!!!!!!

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Old May 25, 2004 | 05:00 AM
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pre-ordered mine and was guaranteed msrp. as for price, the n.e. mitsu sales rep. indicated less than $34,000.00 which i took to mean $33,999.99.
So a mr is going to cost the same as an 2004 regular evo, dont they msrp for like 33k with the leather.
I find this hard to believe..cant wait to find out if its true.
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Old May 25, 2004 | 06:02 AM
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Seems the only missing pieces are pricing and release dates.

I myself have been waiting for the 05 and possibly the MR.
I started to worry cause who knows production #'s and price on the MR, then figure in dealer markup. I am now relieved to see that the things I worried about (acd/front lsd) are on all models. So if the MR is outta price range no worries. I will be just as happy with a reg '05.

The things i lust for on the MR is the roof which I now find negligable at 6 lbs......the bilsteins which i would go for coilovers on the regular evo to compensate for.....and the wheels.........weel crap I'm still envious of the wheels.....and the the 6 speed which .........I'm skeptical about.

Bottom line is that I'm happy and looking foward to a regular 05 if dealer pricing gets outta hand I dont feel like I'm getting shafted........cause I'm still getting the ACD/LSD (what really matters to me personally)
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Old May 25, 2004 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mister2zx3
Can the ECU for the ACD be reprogrammed to offer near any ratio of torque distribution?
ACD is not that simple like Subarus DCCD system. The modes in ACD are actual progams that have different profiles, response times for locking and locking pressures for the modes.

After market ACD CU are available from Ralliart and several others. The K1 unit from Ralliart all the modes are designed for tarmac.

Blonde-

I am just saying on the street it makes a difference. Just take off hard right from a stop you can definitly feel it. The MR will be an AutoX monster also. If your only interest is drag racing ( I don't know why anyone would buy an Evo for that) don't bother just get the current Evo or RS.
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